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Exactly how did Zelensky start his war with Russia?

Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by TheShmoo
Appalachia
Member since Dec 2022
177 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:28 am
I missed that little bit of news three years ago.

Expecting your usual astute responses.

Posted by The Maj
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:30 am to
TheShmoo
Appalachia
Member since Dec 2022
165 posts

Post less... a lot less...
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:32 am
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
11308 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:31 am to
When are you heading out to fight alongside your Ukrainian brothers?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175377 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:31 am to
Did you miss the part where Ukraine has been begging to join the NATO and Putin saying he didn't want NATO on his doorstep?

Guess you think the USA would be OK with Mexico teaming up with a Russian led coalition


ETA: I said UN and meant NATO
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:33 am
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3654 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:31 am to
It was started in 2014 by election interference from the Obama administration. Blinkin lit the fuse when he stated that Ukraine May be fast tracked in to NATO.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
449995 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:32 am to
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Exactly how did Zelensky start his war with Russia?


This is actually an interesting question because people who think Ukraine/The West started it can't explain how Zelensky was part of the purported coup, as he actually disposed of the purported Western puppet installed by that purported Western coup.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5691 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:32 am to
Continuously bombing Russians in Donbas after Putin for years told him not too. Laundering money for global elites. Having a hand in biochemical warfare i.e covid.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175377 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:32 am to
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When are you heading out to fight alongside your Ukrainian brothers?



I will buy a one way ticket for he and any of the OT warmonger bros who want to go fight for Ukraine.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
23240 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:32 am to
Everyone gets rich during war times.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:33 am to
The CIA started it and Trump had to finish it. Hope you can wrap you head around that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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449995 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:33 am to
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It was started in 2014 by election interference from the Obama administration. B

Obama stayed out of Ukraine

And Zelensky ousted the purported Western puppet, which, if that event occurred as you described, ended when Zelensky won his election and Ukraine was free from all of that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:34 am to
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The CIA started it


The CIA caused Yanukovych to reject the integration efforts with the EU that was extremely popular with the Ukrainian population and government?

How?
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3722 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:37 am to
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Well, you see, the Russian state started to exist as a centralized state in 862.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51306 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:38 am to
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Continuously bombing Russians in Donbas after Putin for years told him not too.


This needs to be investigated. I would like to know a whole lot more about this egregious provocation as well as other provocations.

We know that Russia for many years used nefarious methods to place "their guys" into power in Ukraine. Many of these methods were illegal and immoral. We know that Russia invaded Ukraine.

This is a mess. How do we get out of it? It's Trump's problem now. He has decided that endless war, death and suffering in Ukraine is not going to continue during his Presidency.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:39 am to
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The CIA caused Yanukovych to reject the integration efforts with the EU that was extremely popular with the Ukrainian population and government?

How?


Why bother arguing with you about anything? You reject reality and create your own every time.

Oh... and .... I'm still here bitch!
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
61955 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:39 am to
Z wanted peace, then these thugs and the State Dept got to him.
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Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
6040 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:41 am to
I was all in on Ukraine early on until I saw Sean Penn support them. That was a huge red flag for me.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:42 am
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
14749 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:43 am to
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Sean Penn support them.


was paid millions by USAID for this
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
449995 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:44 am to
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Why bother arguing with you about anything? You reject reality and create your own every time.


What about that post was not factual?

-Yanukovych thwarted EU integration unilaterally. That's a fact

-EU integration was highly popular with the Ukrainian population. That's a fact

-EU integration was highly popular with the Ukrainian government. That's a fact.

Which do you dispute?

Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
9810 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:46 am to
This war was going on before 3 years ago.

Zelenskyy was in bed with Russia and Obama. Russia objected and doubled down saying they would join NATO

Biden said a limited incursion into Ukraine was fine with him. Russia is involved in a limited incursion.
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