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re: Helicopter crash update

Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:38 pm to
Girl boss
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
14331 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:41 pm to
I’m sure that the major news networks won’t cover this
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
448 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
5716 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:52 pm to
It seems obvious to me that she was being groomed by the political elite to join the ranks of the political class.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10112 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Only reason that airport is still open is so politicians can get home to load up on cash quicker.


Politicians have gotten free parking right next to the entrance for decades. That might have changed, but did a politician ever give up a free anything?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77433 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:55 pm to
Lol never
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
18980 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 3:59 pm to
So, Pres DJT was correct all along?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33898 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:03 pm to
I remember when they tried to blame it on Trump and DOGE.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16676 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:09 pm to
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quote:
If true, that's 100% on the male instructor. WTF was he thinking?


Correct. At the end of the day it’s hard to blame the female 100% here when there was an instructor that could have taken over if he felt it was truly needed


Boy oh boy, talk about a couple of fellas that have never managed a "chosen DEI candidate".

She is a liason to the white house, a female pilot of a chopper and you are just going to boss her around and have her have a little chat at the WH about what a bigoted ahole you are??????

Im certain the trainer did not think it would end up in death, but it certainly could have ruined his career by reprimanding her and taking control.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3096 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:17 pm to
What makes this bad isn't that she was a woman pilot, its bad because she was likely put into a position where she wasn't qualified for because she was a woman and DEI helped her kill those people.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22381 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

Boy oh boy, talk about a couple of fellas that have never managed a "chosen DEI candidate".


lol. First off, Trump was in office. This wasn’t under Biden and DEI was already being axed.

Secondly, it’s not reprimanding her for taking over in a dangerous situation.
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 4:30 pm
Posted by 2024GoTigas
Member since Mar 2024
310 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:35 pm to
One who is posturing for a future position. At a minimum she cked several boxes for a promotion through the ranks. Political future ?

Military-ck
Officer-ck
Female-ck
Political connections-apparently ck

The campaign ads write themselves if that’s the route she wanted to go.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
2658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 4:44 pm to
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She had absolutely zero business anywhere near that helicopter.


This is why they scrubbed her social media and hid her links.

Investigate who let that idiot near the controls.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18860 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

DEI kills 64


I am still trying to figure out how such a Jr pilot landed in that unit. To give you an idea based off the Marines. This unit is the Army equivalent of HMX-1, the helo squadron that is HQed in Quantico. They fly the President and other VIPs along with supporting OIC in Quantico. To be a pilot there you first have to graduate flight school and grade out high enough in a couple deployments in the FMF before they can even be considered. It is a very coveted billet because of the security clearances needed and the fact that you still get flight time while on a “B Billet” (not in an operating unit). I would imagine the Army is the same way and it is also a coveted billet. But she barely had enough flight time (in fact I was under the impression she was 50 hours shy of the required time) and her first unit wasn’t in an operating unit but one where she was flying high level dignitaries! How is my question?
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
14496 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:14 pm to
Lesbians don't listen to mansplaining....
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
2658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:19 pm to
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If true, that's 100% on the male instructor. WTF was he thinking?


Radio Instructions T-15s

Process instructions T-12s

Give recommendation T-9s

Nothing happens T-4s

Not on him.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
18860 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:20 pm to
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First off, Trump was in office. This wasn’t under Biden and DEI was already being axed.


She was moved to that unit before the inauguration. Read my post above, I can’t figure out how she landed there.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
3936 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:30 pm to
The IP failed, there's a phrase used when the other pilot is flying dangerously, "I've got the controls".
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7839 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:40 pm to
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DEI has real life consequences. My heart breaks for the innocent victims.
just occurred to me when I read your post that I never looked for the names to pay respect when they were finally released - thank you -

Victims aboard American Airlines Flight 5342

Spencer and Christine Lane
Evgenia Shishkova
Vadim Naumov
Jinna and Jin Han
Asra Hussain
Inna Volyanskaya
Samuel Lilley - First Officer
Jonathan Campos - Captain
Danasia Elder - Flight Attendant
Ian Epstein - Flight Attendant
Michael Stovall
Jesse Pitcher
Wendy Shaffer
Sean and Julia Kay
Angela and Lily Yang
Alexandr Kisanov
Grace Maxwell
Kiah Duggins
Everly, Alydia, Donna, and Peter Livingston
Sarah Lee Best
Elizabeth Keys
Cory, Roger, and Stephanie Haynos
Casey Crafton
Brielle Beyer and Justyna Magdalena
Vikesh Patel
Pergentino N. Malabed
Olivia Eve Ter
Franco and Luciano Aparicio
Eddie and Yu Zhou and Kaiyan Mao
Steve Johnson
Lindsey Fields
Chris Collins
Melissa Nicandri
Robert Prewitt
Jonathan Boyd
Alex Huffman
Charles McDaniel
Thomas Clagett

Ryan O'Hara - Black Hawk Crew
Andrew Eaves - Black Hawk Crew
This post was edited on 4/27/25 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
2658 posts
Posted on 4/27/25 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

The IP failed, there's a phrase used when the other pilot is flying dangerously, "I've got the controls".


It was a split second decision.

He didn't expect her to run into the plane.

By the time he was processing it there was metal going into his brain.
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