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re: How the ‘24 election plays out
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:44 am to Tvilletiger
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:44 am to Tvilletiger
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It is clear that Trump is starting to lose more and more support and the fact he cannot spend much money on his campaign is going to come back and haunt him.
We let people like this vote unfortunately.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:50 am to VoxDawg
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Liberals masturbate the the weirdest things.
You mean reality? Unless Trump can fix his significant issues with college educated Independents and Moderates he will not win in the swing states. Those folks decide the election not 'fraud' 'stolen' 'rigged' or any other pathetic excuse you can come up with. Trump polls terribly with that group. It's Trump's job to fix it but I don't see how as he can't keep his big mouth shut from saying stupid things.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:51 am to ronricks
Wow you are melting hard yet again about Orange 
You saved up all your rage last night to bleed out this am
You saved up all your rage last night to bleed out this am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:54 am to SDVTiger
Biden Administration is literally trying to hand the election(s) to Republicans but you morons decided to give Trump yet another chance after already losing to a brain dead moron.
Trump can't win without pulling Independents and Moderates in key critical swing states. Its how he won in 2016. Those folks gave him a chance and they seem to have left him. Do you disagree with this? Its not like we don't have all the statistics and data on this.
Trump can't win without pulling Independents and Moderates in key critical swing states. Its how he won in 2016. Those folks gave him a chance and they seem to have left him. Do you disagree with this? Its not like we don't have all the statistics and data on this.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:55 am to ronricks
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You mean reality? Unless Trump can fix his significant issues with college educated Independents and Moderates he will not win in the swing states.
He has to grow his base. To do that, he will start having to debate and take his message to non MAGA folks.
There is no way he can pull that off.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:59 am to ronricks
So what candidate would have won?
Lets hear your tds answer
But glad you didnt deny you were thinking about Orange all weekend mad as hell
Lets hear your tds answer
But glad you didnt deny you were thinking about Orange all weekend mad as hell
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:00 am to RammerJammer91
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I doubt it. The economy wasn’t great in 2022 and there was no red wave, largely because GOP primary voters went full retard and nominated shite candidates that went on to lose several swing races.
Polling suggests otherwise as to what is most important to voters.
In 2022 he could still blame COVID and Trump and argue he was turning it around.
In 2024, Bidenomics has been determined to be a complete failure. If you are struggling to make ends meet, abortion is not the highest priority.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:00 am to charliemurphy69
There will be cheating!! Don’t be naive
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:02 am to SDVTiger
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So what candidate would have won?
Trump already lost to Biden.
Why are you even asking that? You have actual TDS.
Thinking Trump will beat Biden this time is extreme TDS.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no way he can pull that off.
Even if he was able to stop being retarded and a clown and actually articulate his message in a clear and concise way, he wouldn't be able to win the people over (suburban Independents and women) that he needs to win in November. These people have already made up their minds about him, and they made it VERY clear how they view him and Trumpy candidates in both 2020 and 2022.
Now, some of it isn't his fault. But some of it is. If he had just shut up and put his phone away and stopped saying stupid things and actually did the job he was elected to do when he was sworn in he would've been able to win over some of these voters and would've won re-election in 2020.
There's literally nothing he can do to win these people over, and unlike 2016, he won't have the good fortune of having a Green Party candidate on the ballot to help take votes away from the Democrat. Which, honestly, is pathetic if you think about it. In a red wave year like 2016 he needed Jill Stein's help just to barely beat the 2nd most hated candidate in history. If you can't beat a racist with dementia (Biden) or need the help of a tree hugger splitting the vote, then frankly you suck as a General Election candidate.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:08 am to cyarrr
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Polling suggests otherwise as to what is most important to voters.
Polling suggested that the economy was a big issue in 2022 and we saw how that played out. Again, voters don't care about the economy if there's someone on the ballot that they hate. They were suffering economically but voted against their best interests because they hated Trump's hand-picked candidates in swing races. Heck, even someone who won like JD Vance underperformed every single state-wide Republican in Ohio by over 200K votes. That means that there were 200K Independents, who historically vote Republican and voted Republican down the rest of their ballots, who voted against Vance because they hated him.
It's stupid logic, and I have no sympathy for these people, but unfortunately it's reality. These people exist and they decide who wins General Elections.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:24 am to ronricks
Oh boy the tds deflection
Which person under the sun would be JB in your high iq mind?
Which person under the sun would be JB in your high iq mind?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:27 am to SDVTiger
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Which person under the sun would be JB in your high iq mind?
Not Trump because he already lost to him
The premise that only Trump can beat Biden just isn't true. Trump already lost to him once. Why even give him another chance?
Re-nominating Trump is going to hand the election to the Democrats. That's just reality that is not what I want to happen it is what is very likely going to happen and all the meanwhile you will come on here and post 'fraud' 'rigged' 'stolen' etc and make TDS claims like that Trump really won California, New York, and Hawaii which is certifiably insane.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:29 am to ronricks
Wow you cant provide a single name. Just a long rant again about Orange
I mean dude you have some of the worst TDS ever
Inb4 you dont answer and cry about CA, NY, HI etc wtc
I mean dude you have some of the worst TDS ever
Inb4 you dont answer and cry about CA, NY, HI etc wtc
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:29 am to RammerJammer91
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Now, some of it isn't his fault. But some of it is. If he had just shut up and put his phone away and stopped saying stupid things and actually did the job he was elected to do when he was sworn in he would've been able to win over some of these voters and would've won re-election in 2020.
Based on his track record, he's little more than a Demagogue.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:43 am to Placekicker
Trump has an ardent base of followers, but he's not expanding his voting base. Moderates, independents and "undecideds" are going in a different direction-- if not Biden, then JFK. They're NOT choosing Trump.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 9:52 am to tarzana
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Moderates, independents and "undecideds"
There it is. Exactly why the Founders both loathed and fear Democracy as "mob rule", and nullified/limited it via a Constitutional Republic. Open Border and unlimited printing of money to subsidize all the new and unemployable poors. Thanks to the "moderates and independents" that by default, lend power to the Fascist Left.
They say that people get the government that they deserve. Democracy in action. Minus Vision, Freedom is ultimately a curse. "Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof is destruction". Live and learn.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:17 am to SDVTiger
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Wow you cant provide a single name.
Your name has already lost. Now you are cheer leading for him again
That is TDS. Trump can't and won't beat Biden who is significantly cognitively impaired and declining. Trump himself is obese and cognitively declining as well. Perhaps letting someone else try other than Trump might have been a good idea?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:33 am to ronricks
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Your name has already lost
Great. Which person in your opinion can beat JB since Orange cannot?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 10:33 am to cyarrr
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People will vote based on their pocketbook.
Ehhh. At any other point in history I’d agree. shite is so toxic now though, it’s insanity. I know plenty of late 20s/early 30s women at work who can’t afford shite despite having an advanced degree who I’d bet my house will vote against trump again. Our country is full of idiots and there is just a flat out brainwashed segment of it.
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