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re: How Trump negotiates

Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:42 pm to
Abu is a top 5 smartest guy on this board. He said this.
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Tell tale sign is that, normally (like 95+% of the time historically), a significant correction in equity markets almost always results in a flight to U.S. treasuries. That has not happened over the last 2 - 3 months, and the dollar is getting absolutely destroyed. Instead, capital is fleeing both U.S. equity and bond markets concurrently into currencies viewed as next-best safe havens (Euro, CHF, Yen, etc) and things like gold. The U.S. government is looking like a less trusty lender.

Trump can say whatever the frick he wants, but markets have a brutal and quick way of correcting delusions and incompetence. Unfortunately, the American investor is paying the price right now.


I posted a similar thing from a site I frequent.
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There was already some struggle while implementing phase 1.

Phase 2 seems to create even more serious problems:

Charles Gasparino @CGasparino - 16:42 UTC · Apr 21, 2025
BREAKING: Japanese negotiators are complaining that the problem with the trade negotiations with the White House, what's delaying concrete progress and a real deal, is that US keeps changing its ask in terms of exactly what it wants, said one financial CEO who speaks regularly to country officials. Maybe it's a negotiating tactic. But the lack of publicly announced deal progress is depressing the dollar, spiking bond yields and leading to a flight to quality to gold and now Bitcoin. Developing


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Gregg Carlstrom @glcarlstrom - 17:38 UTC · Apr 21, 2025
Not just Japan. Every diplomat I've asked about tariffs in the Middle East has told a similar story: they don't know how to engage with the Trump administration because everyone makes different demands

Also, we are really in trouble if Bitcoin is now a "flight to quality"


Every single person who works for the White House on trade seems to have a different idea of how to (ab)use the tariffs. There seems to be no big common plan to which they are all aligned to. This won't work.

Markets need rules and assurances that the rules will be adhered to. Any factor that increase insecurity will require additional security margins within each deal. When all this gets too expensive, unpredictable and complicate people will simply bail out. Money is leaving the U.S. dollar denominated markets. This creates the unusual case where share prices, treasuries and the dollar conjointly decline.

But "trust us" some pro tariff folks might say. "Phase 3 will soon come and its gonna be huge."

May be. I for one am not yet convinced.

LINK

DJT's brain trust is probably telling him to back down.
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Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31920 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:43 pm to
At least he’s been winning and losing with his own money versus the Democratic Party continuing to lose MY money
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9727 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:44 pm to

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and then trump files bankruptcy for the 8th time.


the TDS butthurt is strong in this one
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57354 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:44 pm to
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and then trump files bankruptcy for the 8th time.


I love it when idiots say things like this. How many entities do you own? What percentage of entities that you own are successful? You dumb idiot
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5673 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:49 pm to
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DJT's brain trust is probably telling him to back down.


Negative sir. Pain prior to gain. It has to happen and it will.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:49 pm to
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Every single person who works for the White House on trade seems to have a different idea of how to (ab)use the tariffs. There seems to be no big common plan to which they are all aligned to. This won't work.


Its crazy watching all of this in real time.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
57354 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Its crazy watching all of this in real time.


You have no clue what you are watching. You’re a closeted old queen
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3653 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:56 pm to
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Trump takes a set of circumstances and completely scrambles them to provide for new potential outcomes that didn’t exist before.


This is what “they” know and absolutely can’t stand.

Because “they” can’t do it.

It’s funny which makes “them” furious and amuses me bigly
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14435 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:05 pm to
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He's only polarizing because of the BS media coverage in our country.

He wasn't polarizing AT ALL before he entered politics. Everybody loved him. Hell, the hags on the view were french kissing his arse whenever he went on the show.
Exactly! Just like ELON! Like Trump, he was worshipped by the Left just a short while ago.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4571 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:11 pm to
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56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7615 posts

Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:11 pm to FLTech
and then trump files bankruptcy for the 8th time.


Yet you post this from your 19 year old doublewide with the collapsing skirting around it and the 1976 Chevy IMPELLA on blocks in the yard.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26960 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:16 pm to
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So we went from 0% making jacking shite to now making 10%


That's one of the stranger takes on a tax I've ever seen.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
9341 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:17 pm to
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56lsu


Someone is pissy because they couldn’t cancel their vacation rental. Enjoy your stay at the new and improved beautiful GULF OF AMERICA!!!


Btw try to keep your tranny kids from bringing attention to you and your loser family because they’ll lock you up for child abuse over there
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
8460 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:19 pm to
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and then trump files bankruptcy for the 8th time.




You don't know how bankruptcy works.

so nice of you assholes to confirm you are ignorant so that nobody has to pay attention to you
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22468 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:21 pm to
It's the way Wendy's market their Double burger.

When they first introduced them, no one would buy the Double because they thought they were too damn big.

What did Dave Thomas do? He introduced the Triple to make the Double look like a reasonable choice. Double sales took off.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11576 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:21 pm to
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Why the frick would he take the eyes off the Democrat currently destroying their party? Let them destroy themselves without having to do anything right now. If arrests start then it takes the eyes off the democrats literally destroying themselves with their own civil war

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“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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“The whole secret lies in confusing the enemy, so that he cannot fathom our real intent.” - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:53 pm to
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The cases and most importantly the courts to bring them in are crucial. We are 3 months into a 48 month term. Patience my friend.
Trust Sessions. Trust Wray. Trust Pam

Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2514 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:59 pm to
Another MAGAtard trump cock sucking contest. Count me out and we'll see how it all end. Something tells me he'll have pissed off most of the people who would work with him and get 1/3 of what was possible once the dust settles.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:05 pm to
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Surely, you did not think that in 2 months, Pam Bondi and Kash Patel were going to solve all these cases by now did you?
Im pretty sure that all the evidence for Crossfire Hurricane is already there and there hasnt been a single conviction. Lying on a FISA application? No jail. Lying under oath? No jail. There are so many provable crimes they have all the evidence for. Wieners laptop? Hunters laptop? Proven bribes paid to Bidens? Proven fraud from Clinton Foundation? Nothing.

This is the weakest DOJ in our lifetime. Dems in control, 4 am raids, arrests, jail. Reps in control, we need time, be patient, it all cant happen fast.



Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86474 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:06 pm to
Who do you think they are going to arrest?


It sure as frick won’t be Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton.



Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
18545 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:11 pm to
I was talking about 56LSU’s worth. Jeez people need to read the post that was replied to.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 10:13 pm
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