re: ‘If you close Hormuz, we will kill you before you make it back to your f–king country.’

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agree with all of that. I don’t know the post history of the person you’re arguing with, but some of his points do have merit.

We can’t simply do whatever we want over there with no repercussions is all I’m saying, and that appears to be what he’s saying as well.

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If you point our vulnerabilities of our regional partners to Iran's current arsenal or difficulties our forces may encounter escalating this conflict. Jammijin will accuse you for ooting for the enemy. Anything less than promoting that the US can destroy all of the threats Iran posses whenever we want at not cost is just Democrat talking points to him

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Anything less than promoting that the US can destroy all of the threats Iran posses whenever we want at not cost is just Democrat talking points to him

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Unfortunately, in the case of many of those democrats, he is correct. Way too many people talk out their arse on a subject which none of us have enough facts to speak on in a definitive way. This applies to both sides, to be clear.

Listening to some of these TDS inflicted posters is like listening to your mother in law complain about the Saints back in drew Bree's prime. She knows absolutely nothing about the sport. But she just "knows" the Saints are bad. When they win, you hear nothing more. When they lose, it's "I told you so."

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time to invade and conquer Iran

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Listening to some of these TDS inflicted posters is like listening to your mother in law complain about the Saints back in drew Bree's prime. She knows absolutely nothing about the sport. But she just "knows" the Saints are bad. When they win, you hear nothing more. When they lose, it's "I told you so."

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Tub Thumper likes to hide his disdain for our military accomplishments in Iran by pretending he’s a war gamer in the pentagon or Robert E Lee evaluating things he knows nothing about

It’s just the same bullshite others spout here but Thumper thinks he’s “edgy” by trying to call it “pointing out vulnerabilities”.

Tub Thumper would get laughed out of any serious conversation on military strategy, regional vulnerabilities, or how to negotiate a proper cease fire and surrender

But he has an internet connection and a keyboard so in his mind he’s the smartest guy in whatever room he’s in.

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Same way we've done it lately! There exist a safe path thru the mines and we can defend against their missles and drones.

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You realize no shipping is transiting absent the cease fire deal because the perceived risk is too high right?

If they don't leave now there may be nothing for them to come home to.

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Democrats are Iran’s biggest weapon, or ally.

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A war for no reason. And trump chickens out every week. He’s all talk. You’d think people would have figured it out by now.

Iran has won the war.

Trump can say whatever he wants. Iran knows the US isn’t invading their country.

They have all the leverage with the straits being closed.

All you’re doing is ignoring the facts.

How many times has trump claimed we have won the war? 50? 60?

Israel is the worst “ally” we could have in this situation because they will always sabotage peace. Trump can claim victory 1000 times but the straits are still closed and the oil reserves are being depleted daily.