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Is 'border jumper' a racist statement?

Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:38 pm
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:38 pm
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Posted by TigerDeacon
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:39 pm to
Probably depends on which border you are jumping.
Posted by CC
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:39 pm to
I like the term "foreign invader" myself.
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 1:40 pm to
Yes, if the border in question is Mexico's northern border. If is their SOUTHERN border we call them the "Guatemalen guys who got shot trying to cross into Mexico".
Posted by wilfont
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Is 'border jumper' a racist statement?


Depends on who's making the statement. Racism isn't determined by content but rather by originator.
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 3:04 pm to
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Yes, if the border in question is Mexico's northern border. If is their SOUTHERN border we call them the "Guatemalen guys who got shot trying to cross into Mexico".





I ask because border jumper has EXACTLY the same meaning as wetback(especially within the context I used it), yet the thread got anchored because some pussies thought it was racist.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 3:04 pm to
no
Posted by Towelie
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 3:14 pm to
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because border jumper has EXACTLY the same meaning as wetback


border jumper refers to someone who jumps a border
wetback is a term that refers to mexicans.
not EXACTLY the same thing is it?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 4:31 pm to
What if you called your new Mexican coworker a border jumper and he had actually jumped the border?
Posted by Lafayette Tiger
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 4:42 pm to
It would be bigoted to refer to Mexican-Americans (or Hispanics) in general as "border jumpers". If you are referring to illegal immigrants as "border jumpers" then it wouldn't be bigoted.

I would imagine that anyone who would use such a term would probably be bigoted, but the phrase isn't inherently such.

Posted by Zach
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 6:06 pm to
Here's a boarder jumper from back in the day...


Wish I could find that classic pic of the E. German soldier jumping across with his rifle.
Posted by greybeard
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Posted on 10/16/07 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

I ask because border jumper has EXACTLY the same meaning as wetback(especially within the context I used it), yet the thread got anchored because some pussies thought it was racist.
It doesn't matter if they mean the same thing. While calling someone a "border jumper" can be racist, depending on the context, calling someone a "wetback" is a racial slur; plan and simple. A'int no way around it.
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 1:57 am to
quote:

border jumper refers to someone who jumps a border
wetback is a term that refers to mexicans.
not EXACTLY the same thing is it?


No. If you speak/read English and discern context, you could easily see that.
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 1:59 am to
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If you were referring to people who were jumping the boarder as "boarder jumpers," I fail to see how that would be racist.


Bingo.
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 2:28 am to
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While calling someone a "border jumper" can be racist, depending on the context, calling someone a "wetback" is a racial slur; plan and simple. A'int no way around it


So calling a known illegal alien who crossed the southern border, regardless of nationality, a wetback is racist? What if it's a guy who's back is literally still wet from swimming across the Rio Grande a minute ago?

Posted by greybeard
Japan
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 2:54 am to
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So calling a known illegal alien who crossed the southern border, regardless of nationality, a wetback is racist? What if it's a guy who's back is literally still wet from swimming across the Rio Grande a minute ago?
Must you play dumb? Did you read the post where the racial slur was made? He was of course referring to a Mexican when he made the racist comment. We all know that the racial slur, wetback, refers to Mexicans. SO quit acting stupid!!
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 2:58 am to
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Did you read the post where the racial slur was made? He was of course referring to a Mexican when he made the racist comment


Obviously you didn't read shite, you frickwad. The article posted, nor tv reports from what I can remember, listed his national/ethnic origin. I know nothing about him, other than the fact that he's a repeated border jumper. He could be from fricking Brazil for all I know. He's a fricking wetback no matter where he's from.
Posted by greybeard
Japan
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 3:06 am to
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Obviously you didn't read shite, you frickwad. The article posted, nor tv reports from what I can remember, listed his national/ethnic origin. I know nothing about him, other than the fact that he's a repeated border jumper. He could be from fricking Brazil for all I know. He's a fricking wetback no matter where he's from.
Jesus! Use you brains! Arizona, repeated border jumper, of course he's Mexican! Duh!! Just answer this very simple question. Is calling Mexicans, wetbacks, a racial slur?
Posted by ASUTiger
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Posted on 10/17/07 at 3:11 am to
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of course he's Mexican


Is the entire land mass to the south of the United States called Mexico, you geographically challenged dumbass?

quote:

Just answer this very simple question. Is calling Mexicans, wetbacks, a racial slur?


If they're called 'wetbacks' without reference to their legal status in the US, then yes.

If referring to a Mexican who is here illegally, then no. Is your skull made of the shite they use for the 'black box' in airplanes? Is it that fricking hard to crack through?
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