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re: JD Vance says US will "WALK AWAY" if Russia and Ukraine don't come to a ceasefire deal
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:54 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:54 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
My God, people of Ukraine. You have a fig dancer actor playing what he thinks is a role in a movie. There is no happy ending in this script. You are giving up an area to Russia or you lose the entire country.
Get rid of that literal cock sucking "leader" or you all will die
Get rid of that literal cock sucking "leader" or you all will die
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:56 am to lake chuck fan
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Putin hasn't been the hindrance to a peace deal!
He kinda invaded.. He could stop if he chose to. If Ukraine ceases fighting it is Russia's for the taking only on a faster pace than we've seen. Russia is the aggressor here. Manpower, arms and potentially time are all on their side. So why stop? Take their REEs (keeping them out of Western hands) and their farmland (food is one helluva weapon to wield). That's winning for Russia. Given the circumstances they should continue doing what they've done.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:56 am to oklahogjr
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I hope they do but if I'm Putin I'm doubling down and coming with a big surge as soon as us walks away before zelensky works it out with Europe
Sounds like Russia always had the upper hand, and Ukraine has always relied on the US.
Ukraine and Europe should already know this, and the pressure should be on them to do something differently, make concessions, etc.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:58 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:02 pm to oklahogjr
quote:Before he works it out with Europe?
I hope they do but if I'm Putin I'm doubling down and coming with a big surge as soon as us walks away before zelensky works it out with Europe
Bro where the frick have they been? Besides telling us how fricking monumentally crucial this situation is?
What do you even mean? How are they not ready now?
And how the frick is this on us if they aren’t ready?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:03 pm to OceanMan
quote:Are you serious?
Sounds like Russia always had the upper hand, and Ukraine has always relied on the US. Ukraine and Europe should already know this, and the pressure should be on them to do something differently, make concessions, etc.
We can’t possibly expect them to deal with this. We must stay in this forever war until Europe is ready.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:07 pm to Tmcgin
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Russian ineptness is epic in this war
Yes.
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Putin runs a clown show with nukes
Yes but that clown show can slowly beat down Ukraine and take highly valuable territory given enough time.
As an FYI for the board Ukraine just summoned the Chinese ambassador to talk to them about ceasing their aid to Russia.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:09 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
[quote]It's time for them to either say 'yes,' or for the United States to walk away from this process."[/quote
Good conversation starter for Trump and Zelensky at the popes funeral
Good conversation starter for Trump and Zelensky at the popes funeral
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:14 pm to Figgy
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He kinda invaded..
Why, though?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:18 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
That’s the way it should be. If Ukraine and Russia can’t come to an agreement at this point, then it’s time for the U.S. to step away and let Ukraine, Russia and the rest of Europe figure it out. The U.S. has done a lot to try to help both sides reach a fair agreement that everyone can live with.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:20 pm to TBoy
I don't object. Ukraine is the most corrupt shithole on that side of the world
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:21 pm to oklahogjr
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Basically surrender or else to zelensky without having to say it. I definitely wouldn't quit or sign if I was Putin now.
No one is telling Zelensky that he must surrender. He can fight for as long as he would like (or until Ukraine loses). The U.S. just isn’t going to fund the war anymore. We have our own problems and it’s irresponsible for us to pay for another conflict that could last for an indefinite number of years.
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:23 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
What about Trump ending it in one day?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:23 pm to oklahogjr
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Basically surrender or else to zelensky without having to say it. I definitely wouldn't quit or sign if I was Putin now.
You still believe they can win
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:24 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:24 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
I really hope Zelensky screws this deal up and we get to walk away... Need to send him a bill on our way out...
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:24 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Putin: Wellbye.gif
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:27 pm to oklahogjr
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Basically surrender or else to zelensky without having to say it. I definitely wouldn't quit or sign if I was Putin now.
Are you under the impression Putin was about to surrender to Z?
There is no path to Russia leaving the area they’ve occupied absent kinetic action by NATO/US troops to force them out.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:33 pm to prouddawg
I'm not going to bother going back to the color revolution (opinions vary greatly there), the Holodomir or anything else as these two haven't liked each other for a very very long time. I think everyone can agree on that...
Because two knuckledeaded nations were bombing each other for years. Russia, being in a position to act as an aggressor, said enough of this shite and went in. Then they got pushed back because their military isn't all that great and it became a war of attrition which they will slowly win due to their own internal numbers and with their mercenary forces. If Ukraine doesn't have support Russia will slowly gain momentum and territory. The prizes being the minerals and farmland.
Because two knuckledeaded nations were bombing each other for years. Russia, being in a position to act as an aggressor, said enough of this shite and went in. Then they got pushed back because their military isn't all that great and it became a war of attrition which they will slowly win due to their own internal numbers and with their mercenary forces. If Ukraine doesn't have support Russia will slowly gain momentum and territory. The prizes being the minerals and farmland.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:34 pm to OceanMan
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Sounds like Russia always had the upper hand, and Ukraine has always relied on the US.
Yes, no shite....
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Ukraine and Europe should already know this, and the pressure should be on them to do something differently, make concessions, etc.
Agree somewhat. Depends on the deal and what concessions are being asked for. If you're zelensky why even agree to the ceasefire if they are just gonna violate it in a few years and take the remaining with no consequences....
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