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LA GATOR / Vouchers - Less than 30% of applicants are current public school students
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:07 pm
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Even if you add in the 5K or so of kids in the current limited voucher program, that's still less than half of the students who have applied.
Thus, the majority of vouchers will go to families who are currently paying for private school. This is new spending.
On the other hand... this is actually very good news for public school advocates. Only having 11K students across the state wanting to jump to a private school is a very, very small percentage of the state public student population. This won't have much of an impact on funding and school closures / layoffs.
Future rounds - if they ever happen - will be for wealthier families, so my guess is even a smaller percentage of current public school students will come in those rounds.
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In other states with voucher-like programs, many of the grants have gone to families with children already in private schools or homeschooled — not parents of public-school students seeking better options. For example, nearly three-fourths of students who participated in Arizona’s expanded voucher program when it launched in 2022 had never been enrolled in a public school.
A similar scenario could unfold in Louisiana. Less than 30% of LA GATOR applicants — about 11,000 students — are enrolled in public schools, according to the state education department. The majority are already enrolled in private schools or homeschools.
Even if you add in the 5K or so of kids in the current limited voucher program, that's still less than half of the students who have applied.
Thus, the majority of vouchers will go to families who are currently paying for private school. This is new spending.
On the other hand... this is actually very good news for public school advocates. Only having 11K students across the state wanting to jump to a private school is a very, very small percentage of the state public student population. This won't have much of an impact on funding and school closures / layoffs.
Future rounds - if they ever happen - will be for wealthier families, so my guess is even a smaller percentage of current public school students will come in those rounds.
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:11 pm to LSUFanHouston
Can homeschoolers cash the voucher for expenses related to homeschooling?
For years we paid school taxes and covered the expenses of homeschooling.
Homeschoolers should get their money back.
For years we paid school taxes and covered the expenses of homeschooling.
Homeschoolers should get their money back.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:12 pm to LSUFanHouston
I saw where an activist judge in Utah stopped a similar program there. Another judge who doesn't give a shite about anything that does not advance the liberal agenda. They know it will get reversed on appeal but dont care.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
I would rather us be spending on people who actually want to do school then giving free handouts to people sitting at home and their kids running around car jacking people while skipping school.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:35 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Thus, the majority of vouchers will go to families who are currently paying for private school.
I’m waiting for the punch line.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:38 pm to LSUFanHouston
I’m still unclear about this program pertaining to families who currently send their kids to private school and AGI over $150k. Are those families eligible for funds during phase 3 rollout?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
quote:Technically, those families are paying for public schools and private schools.
Thus, the majority of vouchers will go to families who are currently paying for private school.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
I always hear that we should be expected to subsidize public schools even if we don’t have kids in them because a well educated population is great for everyone…
With that logic, shouldn’t the public school set be required to subsidize (Jesuit, Newman, whoever), because of the same argument, that a well educated population benefits everyone?
With that logic, shouldn’t the public school set be required to subsidize (Jesuit, Newman, whoever), because of the same argument, that a well educated population benefits everyone?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 4:57 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Less than 30% of LA GATOR applicants — about 11,000 students — are enrolled in public schools, according to the state education department. The majority are already enrolled in private schools or homeschools.
I would argue that a much higher percentage of parents are involved in their child’s education and future if their child is in private school than in public school.
Is it really a shock then that more private school parents are willing to opt into a program that gives them choice of school if it means saving near college tuition money?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:01 pm to LSUFanHouston
No one with a brain wants to send their child to a public school in Nola or BR.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:04 pm to LSUFanHouston
Not sure how the state can pay for this if the state is as broke as we're being told.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:05 pm to Jimmy Bags
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No one with a brain wants to send their child to a public school in Nola or BR.
The only two options in BR are magnet or private.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:35 pm to Jimmy Bags
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No one with a brain wants to send their child to a public school in Nola or BR.
Yet Benjamin Franklin High School in New Orleans is consistently ranked as the top public high school in Louisiana by U.S. News & World Report. It's also ranked among the best public high schools in the nation. In 2019, it was ranked as the 15th best charter school in the US.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:36 pm to LSUFanHouston
This is how it is in Oklahoma. It simply helped move tax dollars to private schools and didn't result in much better choice options.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:37 pm to chalmetteowl
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With that logic, shouldn’t the public school set be required to subsidize (Jesuit, Newman, whoever), because of the same argument, that a well educated population benefits everyone?
Those kids can go to public school. Why would it make sense to subsidize adults who choose to forego public school and instead opt to pay for private school?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:39 pm to chalmetteowl
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always hear that we should be expected to subsidize public schools even if we don’t have kids in them because a well educated population is great for everyone…
With that logic, shouldn’t the public school set be required to subsidize (Jesuit, Newman, whoever), because of the same argument, that a well educated population benefits everyone?
It's part of the constitution of most states that legislature is obligated to provide a public education simple as that it's fundamental to state governments to provide an education to their populace.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:41 pm to oklahogjr
Well the last time we tried vouchers in Louisiana, it was a colossal failure. But hey, let’s go broker trying again.
A study of Louisiana's voucher program failure may show the worst academic non-performance. Published in the American Economic Journal, the Louisiana study found that participation in the voucher plan “lowers math scores . . . and also reduces achievement in reading, science, and social studies.”
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A study of Louisiana's voucher program failure may show the worst academic non-performance. Published in the American Economic Journal, the Louisiana study found that participation in the voucher plan “lowers math scores . . . and also reduces achievement in reading, science, and social studies.”
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According to the researchers, Indiana voucher students experienced an achievement loss in mathematics during their first year of attending a private school compared with students who remained in public school. That loss persisted regardless of the length of time spent in a private school. In English and other language arts, the researchers did not observe any “statistically meaningful” effects for voucher recipients.
In other words, hundreds of millions of Indiana tax dollars are annually thrown at private schools that duplicate the mission of the public schools taxpayers already support, but the duplicate schools aren’t as effective as the well-established public schools.
Then there’s Ohio: different state, same sad story, as taxpayer dollars are wasted on private schools that fail to improve academics, and can actually be detrimental to students. A study published by the Fordham Institute states, “The (Ohio) students who used vouchers to attend private schools fared worse on state exams compared to their closely matched peers remaining in public schools.”
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Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
Private school vouchers are just a hand out for the middle class. They’re not designed to help lower class because they still likely cannot afford any option appreciably better than the public option that’s free.
This post was edited on 4/24/25 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:46 pm to 4cubbies
We had schools in Oklahoma faking attendance records to ensure state funding didn't stop flowing. Academic outcomes are worse overall for us here so far.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:50 pm to oklahogjr
Why do dim-marxists not care about the poor whose children are trapped in a failing public school? Dim-marxists will travel to El Salvador to slobber over an ms-13 gang member but don't care about American children whose only crime is being born poor.
Why don't dim-marxists acknowledge the fact that public schools are failing to educate our children. The falling test scores prove that fact.
Why don't dim-marxists acknowledge the fact that public schools are failing to educate our children. The falling test scores prove that fact.
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