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re: MAGA’s Tariff idea…been wanting a “consumption tax” FOREVER

Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:58 pm to
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1- Poor china with their tariffs.

You stated last night that Chinese could not afford iPhones

Well that's a lie.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/24 at 3:59 pm to
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It's because he is wrong and puts out numbers that he feels is right.


More outright lies
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
435525 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 4:00 pm to
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. If people don’t like reality being pointed out……..

...then they are either Leftists or Patriots
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
2659 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:10 pm to
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quote:
1- Poor china with their tariffs.

You stated last night that Chinese could not afford iPhones


Well that's a lie.




Your words:

Most of them can't.

Can be found here: LINK

Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
2659 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 5:11 pm to
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quote:
It's because he is wrong and puts out numbers that he feels is right.



More outright lies


100% throwing out numbers as fact. Example is that the top 25% does not purchase 75%... Got that link yet?

Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
23400 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 6:06 pm to
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They get the credit for this. Who stated they didn't?




Find me any discussion on this forum where a Trump loyalist calls them "Congress' tax cuts".

quote:

That would be because of these:



So Trump didn't sign them?
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
6625 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 7:52 pm to
All that needs to happen is to drop the corporate tax rate in the United States to 5% for companies that hire American workers. If a company employs, say 85% of American citizens as full time workers, 5% corporate tax. If they hire 100% American workers, 0% corporate tax.
If companies believed in hiring foreigners, OK, but corporate taxes start at 50% at the point in which you employee more than 15% foreign workers.
Industry would return to the U.S. Wage growth would occur. Middle class would swell. Wealth overall would grow in the U.S.
But DC doesn't want people less dependent on the Govt, because the Democratic party would vanish.
This post was edited on 6/15/24 at 7:56 pm
Posted by YipSkiddlyDooo
Member since Apr 2013
3675 posts
Posted on 6/15/24 at 9:42 pm to
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All that needs to happen is to drop the corporate tax rate in the United States to 5% for companies that hire American workers. If a company employs, say 85% of American citizens as full time workers, 5% corporate tax. If they hire 100% American workers, 0% corporate tax. If companies believed in hiring foreigners, OK, but corporate taxes start at 50% at the point in which you employee more than 15% foreign workers.



The uniparty would take corporate donations and provide citizenship to millions of immigrants faster than you can say bobs your uncle. Problem solved. Crony capitalism continues with the help of congress and your idea (which in a vacuum I’m all for) never realizes its intended benefit
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:31 am to
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So why does everybody talk about Trump’s tax cuts but blame Congress for spending bills?


We all know that Trump wants tax cuts and that is why most people vote for him.

We all know that most people want their congressman to spend and bring that money back to their district.

So what happens is that these opposite forces get reconciled into a spending bill that is bad for everyone.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
268526 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:47 am to
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We all know that Trump wants tax cuts and that is why most people vote for him.


I love tax cuts, but I'd rather pay taxes than deal with the inflation we currently have.

No one is in charge. Its a runaway shite show, and at some point there will have to be a reckoning.

The anti populist view is realism. Entitlements and military have to be cut.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
72232 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 8:50 am to
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but I'd rather pay taxes than deal with the inflation we currently have.



inflation is a tax

The spending will be paid for one way or another.

There is no such thing as free.
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