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re: Nazi Germany has returned globally

Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 12:55 pm to
The Azov Brigade was funded by the Jewish oligarch/gangster Ihor Kolomoyskyi.

So, yes, you have all of the Nazi symbolism, but that's really just opportunist, and goes back to the fact that Western Ukrainians, who were heavy Polanized during the period of the Commonwealth have a separate identity, and that they attached themselves to the German war effort in WW2 in order to create their own separate state.
Posted by TrailDawg77
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:01 pm to
Just remember God's "chosen people" killed Jesus. "He came to his own, but his own received him not "
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Nazi Germany has returned globally


Antisemitism is much more prevalent than I thought today, but the OP subject is nonsense. Western nations aren’t calling for genocide or setting up camps, not to mention the other atrocities of the Nazis.

Godwin’s Law again.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:10 pm to
There is much more to a Nazi belief system than hating Jews. Jews just so happen to be the choice of the day in the late 30s and early 40’s.

It was about eugenics. Eliminate undesirables. Jews got the most attention because of the concentration camps and forced labor and starvation but plenty of mentally ill, intellectually challenged, and physically disabled were killed.

On top of that the atrocities in the name of science.

Political ideology of party first over people and liberty.

So yes Nazism is very alive and well
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:21 pm to
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There is much more to a Nazi belief system than hating Jews. Jews just so happen to be the choice of the day in the late 30s and early 40’s.

It was about eugenics. Eliminate undesirables. Jews got the most attention because of the concentration camps and forced labor and starvation but plenty of mentally ill, intellectually challenged, and physically disabled were killed.

On top of that the atrocities in the name of science.

Political ideology of party first over people and liberty.

So yes Nazism is very alive and well


According to research done in the 1930s, Nazi Party members number one concern was Bolshevism or Communism. Germany saw a Communist uprising at the end of WW1, and you had fights between right and left wing paramilitaries through this period. Around a million people starved to death in the waning period of the war, and Weimar itself was horrific. Together it was a very unstable period, and the idea of a communist revolution was entirely plausible.

With Jews, the Nazis complained about the concentration of wealth, and consequently power. They said effectively, that Germans had been disposed.

Here's a clip from Rogan

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Posted by TerryDawg03
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:27 pm to
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There is much more to a Nazi belief system than hating Jews. Jews just so happen to be the choice of the day in the late 30s and early 40’s.

It was about eugenics. Eliminate undesirables. Jews got the most attention because of the concentration camps and forced labor and starvation but plenty of mentally ill, intellectually challenged, and physically disabled were killed.

On top of that the atrocities in the name of science.

Political ideology of party first over people and liberty.

So yes Nazism is very alive and well


If it weren't antisemitism today, Nazi Germany wouldn't be the first go-to comparison. I also wrote "Not to mention the other atrocities of the Nazis." I'm familiar with the history of the National Socialist movement and how Hitler came to power after the Weimar Republic. I have family who lived through both.

But to your point (and not contrary to mine), Antisemitism was widespread throughout Europe at the time, so why limit it to the Nazis when Fascism was alive and well in Italy?

Again, Godwin's Law.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:37 pm to
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They did have some pretty tight uniforms

In many instances, courtesy of Hugo Boss.

They’ve certainly revamped the brand since Hugo died and his son-in-law took over the reins.

A couple of my favorite ties are Boss.

LINK
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:49 pm to
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Nazi Germany has returned globally

I guess the last decade plus of the left using fascist tactics to take power wasn't a hint.
Posted by OchoDedos
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:55 pm to
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Nazi Germany has returned globally

You eliminate Soros and the other ultra Leftist Billionaires, this problem, and many of the global economic issues go poof
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:06 pm to
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I guess the last decade plus of the left using fascist tactics to take power wasn't a hint.


You can argue that the fusion of private money and governance is fascist, but the fascists said that the private sector should serve the public good, and so what we have now really isn’t that, it’s just oligarchy, and oligarchy in the way the Greeks would have understood.

The Nazis used street violence, and so you can make that point, but so did the Bolsheviks and on a much greater scale. They opened the prisons and turned what we would call felons into their shock troops. They let these people rape, murder, and rob ordinary Russians. Which we’ve seen now too, albeit nowhere in the same horrific scale. But that’s why I don’t agree with the comparisons to the Nazis, what we’re watching is just replay of what the Spanish, the Germans, and the Russians experienced in their own ways. The difference here is that the state has been largely captured and there’s very little in the way institutional pushback. This isn’t 1930s Spain, we don’t have Catholic Church, royalists, and the army. It isn’t Russia, we don’t have the Orthodox Church and the aristocracy (which was a martial order like everywhere in Europe).

I should clarify, that when I make the comparison to communism, these people are the children of those movements, but it’s not about a belief in Marxism, and it don’t think it was then either, it was about power.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Congratulations to the West! You are willing to trade off God’s chosen people for barbarians.


Gods chosen people

The rest of us are mutts compared to them!
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 5:47 pm to
That was part of God’s plan for the blood atonement. You still mad at Italians as the descendants of Romans? The Romans put him on the cross.

He is risen.

Posted by Lynxrufus2012
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:03 pm to
Abraham’s covenant with God.

But fortunately for us mutts Christ took us all in.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Congratulations to the West! You are willing to trade off God’s chosen people for barbarians


The Jewish lobby is the single biggest proponent of mass immigration.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:39 pm to
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Abraham’s covenant with God.

But fortunately for us mutts Christ took us all in.


That ended with Jesus, right?

So they somehow remain above us all as the only “chosen people” (out of every ethnic group on the planet) even though Christ/new covenant happened?

quote:

That was part of God’s plan for the blood atonement. You still mad at Italians as the descendants of Romans? The Romans put him on the cross.


Blaming the romans? Interesting.

Go read John 19. The chosen people wanted christ dead. It is what it is.

This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 10:51 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:31 am to
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Congratulations to the West! You are willing to trade off God’s chosen people for barbarians. You want to trade artists, scientists, merchants and doctors for 6th century murderers and rapists. You let in copperheads and are surprised when they bite you.



Mate it was the "Chosen people" in positions of influence and power who played all the cards that led to mass Muslim migration and resetting in Western countries during the Bush and Obama Presidencies (and Blair, Merkel, Macron, Trudeau, etc)
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 12:36 am
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:59 am to
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God’s chosen people

Anyone who says this unironically is confirmed batshit crazy

Meanwhile, your people believe a man can get pregnant
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 2:51 am to
"Get your local catholic church involved."

I could argue that the Catholic Church is helping destroy America. Led by their Communist Pope. I am Catholic and prefer the Latin Mass.
Posted by Bunkie7672
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 6:38 am to
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