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re: Pope Francis has passed.

Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by BornAgain
Member since Mar 2025
206 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Praise be to God for the doctrines of grace


Don’t get me jogging in place my brother!! Amen.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53666 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Yeah. 8 days really



The Easter season is 50 days long. All the way up until Pentecost.
Posted by Golfer1865
Member since Apr 2025
80 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:17 pm to
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I’m no Catholic, but who speaks Latin? And why, if no one does, speak a language in which no one speaks or can understand?


I can read it. It is actually pretty easy. But I cannot converse in it.

But how stupid is it to conduct church services in a language that 99% of the parishioners cannot understand?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27746 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:17 pm to
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The church needs a conservative pope to get it back on track. The Catholic Church needs to move back closer to its orthodox brothers.

While this pope moved the church left...


A very fitting indictment of the absurd doctrine of papal infallibility.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32696 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:18 pm to
We were around long before you Calvinists. We were saving souls and coverting nations long before you got a rock in your shoe over buying indulgences.
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
16119 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:22 pm to
Ditto
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:24 pm to
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No one is in heaven or hell yet.
“But the other criminal protested, “Don’t you fear God even when you have been sentenced to die? We deserve to die for our crimes, but this man hasn’t done anything wrong.” Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.” And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.” - Luke 23:40-43

Luke 23:40-43
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 12:29 pm
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12388 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:36 pm to
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I can read it. It is actually pretty easy.


I would assume that’s probably the case as well when you consider how much of the English language is based on Latin sub words.

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how stupid is it to conduct church services in a language that 99% of the parishioners cannot understand?


It does truly boggle the mind.
Posted by DarthTiger
Member since Sep 2005
3022 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:43 pm to
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And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.” - Luke 23:40-43


I don't have my Bible handy but it's in Revelation. Jesus has not raised the dead in Christ yet. After they are raised, believers who are not dead will be raised.
This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Golfer1865
Member since Apr 2025
80 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:47 pm to
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I would assume that’s probably the case as well when you consider how much of the English language is based on Latin sub words.


The definitely helps with vocabulary.

But what I was referring to was sentence structure and the way words end with either a "us" or "um" indicating subject vs object.

A sentence written in Latin follows a definite pattern that leaves no doubt as to the meaning of each word. There is no ambiguity.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4404 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:48 pm to
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We were saving souls and coverting nations long before you got a rock in your shoe over buying indulgences.


too bad your church doesn't sell clues
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52861 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:49 pm to
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A very fitting indictment of the absurd doctrine of papal infallibility.
the pope is only infallible when he is speaking ‘ex cathedra’

That’s not all the time.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
31460 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:52 pm to
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the pope is only infallible when he is speaking ‘ex cathedra’

That’s not all the time.


And it's only been done once since the First Vatican Council in 1870 declared papal infallibility, when Pope Pius XII defined the Assumption of Mary under Munificentissimus Deus in 1950.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52861 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:55 pm to
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Nope, I'm correct.
you’re not, nothing will last 2000 years if it was built upon a lie
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a worldwide church flies directly in opposition to the message given to us by God through the Bible.
God tells Abraham his descendants will rival the stars in the sky and the sands on the seashore?? That’s pretty many.

Plus does Jesus say to go and Baptize all nations?!??!?

Why wouldn’t God want all of His creations to follow Him?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32696 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 12:57 pm to
We invented clues, hell we invented influence....ever heard of the Jesuits and the Far East?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17153 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:07 pm to
Came to this thread to see how many posts it would take for this to show up. Didn’t disappoint.

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Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52861 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:15 pm to
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AND WHY IN THE HELL ARE WE OFF TOPIC?
you started it
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
68325 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
Did JD Vance kill the Pope?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
43828 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:17 pm to
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Do you honestly believe Jesus would be in favor of deportations?
Potentially.

First, Jesus as the judge on the last day will turn away all who are not His sheep and send the “goats” to Hell saying He never knew them. In other words, Jesus will deport them from His presence even if they want mercy in that moment and to be with Him, receiving all the benefits He provides.

Next, Jesus upheld the rule of law. He obeyed the law of God perfectly so that we may be forgiven through faith, imputing His righteousness to our account.

Jesus, in supporting the ceremonial and civil laws of Israel, understood that Israel had national boundaries with laws for the nation and people that the Gentiles had to follow within those boundaries, too; there was a distinction between national Israel and the surrounding nations/tribes. Israel was supposed to be different from those nations and not worship as those nations worshipped or act as they acted. Israel wasn’t supposed to be “multicultural” and allow anyone to do whatever they wanted within their boundaries and Jesus taught within this context.

Jesus also obeyed the Roman (civil) law, even performing a miracle (catching a fish with a coin in its mouth) to pay taxes. He said to give to Caesar what belongs to him.

We also know that Paul (who did not contradict Jesus) taught that we are to obey the civil magistrate for our good. The government wields the sword of justice for the good of its people (not all people—this wasn’t a one world government context). Jesus even submitted to the Roman death penalty (though done unjustly) and didn’t teach against it as being immoral (the death penalty was also supported for Israel, which used it as part of law enforcement).

In summary, Jesus recognized national boundaries, the role of the civil government, the obligation of general obedience to the laws of the government, and the right of the government to punish law-breakers with up to even the death penalty. Because of this, it seems consistent that Jesus would teach His disciples to obey all laws of the land (including immigration laws) and recognize the right of the government to punish law-breakers, with the death penalty or otherwise (including deportation).
Posted by BornAgain
Member since Mar 2025
206 posts
Posted on 4/21/25 at 1:20 pm to
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We were around long before you Calvinists. We were saving souls and coverting nations long before you got a rock in your shoe over buying indulgences.


We originated with the ones that believe Jesus saves souls. Jesus forgives sin. Jesus did ALL the work necessary on that cross so someone can be saved for all of eternity. For His honor and His glory!

What do you think Paul would say if he came back and seen statues of him and other apostles put up in churches today? Or hearing prayers to Mary? Or seeing a system where people go to “priest” to ask for forgiveness of sin? (I could go on and on here unfortunately)

He would say “did Mary die for your sins??”

“Do we need more high priest??”

The pope would get a whole chapter of roasting.

He would probably tie Pharisees and Catholic leaders together in how they are the same sect and beware of people adding to the gospel. O wait, Galatians is a whole book dedicated to that issue.



We originated from the early believers and believe what they had to say about Jesus and being inspired by the Holy Spirit to relay it is more than enough and efficient for doing the complete work of God as it was intended from the beginning of time to complete Gods good and perfect plan! (Also for all unbelievers, you can look up the reliability of how we know the historical book called the Bible is by far the most reliable source of history known to man, and it’s not even close. You can trust it and test it)



This post was edited on 4/21/25 at 1:27 pm
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