re: Sam Harris & Rener Gracie (BJJ family) on Police Training and Police Misconduct

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Have you ever sparred with a skilled and trained human being in any discipline? Boxing? Muay Thai? Kickboxing? Freestyle Wrestling? Anything?

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No he hasn’t, along with 99.9% of this board. He wouldn’t be sitting there saying a bunch of ridiculous shite and arguing with someone who knows what they’re talking about if he had any experience there.

I’ll be the one to agree with you- you’re right and he’s 1000% wrong- but his bullshite sounds better to people who don’t know anything about controlling another human so I guess we’ll just lose this debate to the guys who have a black belt in sitting on their computers and reminiscing about how tough they were in 1968.

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If Steph Curry laid out a gameplan on how to make collegiate athletes better basketball players, no one would disagree. Rener Gracie lays out a way to make police better at fighting

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Maybe Tiger Woods can teach cops how to golf better so they can swing their batons like a real pro!

If you were around in the 80s, I'm sure you'd have Mr. Miyagi teaching cops to trim Bonzai trees and doing kicks on wooden posts

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Maybe Tiger Woods can teach cops how to golf better so they can swing their batons like a real pro

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This makes no sense

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If you were around in the 80s, I'm sure you'd have Mr. Miyagi teaching cops to trim Bonzai trees and doing kicks on wooden posts

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Coming from the moron who thinks “people have released DVD’s that show any fit male how to control another person”? one of us is a fig McDojo loser and one of us can actually fight, and I’ll gladly meet you wherever you live at your local MMA or BJJ gym so you can test out your Officer Hardo strong guy theory

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You guys are so badass.

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You get your feelings hurt way too quickly.

Most police have adequate training. The issue right now is the incredible turnover, which is a direct result of progressive stupidity.

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What does any of this mean?

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It's gibberish.

Sure is. Bringing in Mr Miyagi is beyond weird

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Will you sign my Tapout! shirt if I show up?

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Definitely. Make a burner email and we can set something up. Don’t just sit there and talk shite on the internet, I’ll put my business on hold for a day and devote my time to educating an old timer who doesn’t know how things work in real life

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What does any of this mean?

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It means what I already said. It's just more karate fig instructor bullshite that misses the root of the issue, which is that most of the people they want have flopping around doing arm bars are physically weak, substandard people who would benefit more from eating food and lifting weights than any of these stupid BJJ classes. It used to be karate and "krav maga" (and other super awesome combat sports!) that were thing that would give officers the advantage, now it's "rolling" in BJJ classes three times a week. It's a joke.

Almost all of the useful combat skills can and have been taught outside of a BJJ curriculum for literally millennia, AND ARE TAUGHT TO COPS ACROSS THE WORLD TODAY but it wasn't until modern times that people have become stupid enough to believe that 140lb Derek Chauvin or 115lb female can go "roll" for 3 days a week and be physically competent for the dangers they can face on the street. These people need to be stronger, first and foremost, and no amount of rolling is going to change that. Derek Chauvin is 140lbs and his gear weighs 30+lbs, putting him at a distinct disadvantage over anyone even in his own weight class, much less a man 200lb in street clothes, so it's obvious that root of his issue isn't a lack of knowledge of some super awesome MMA skills. It's that he is small and weak.

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It's just more karate fig instructor bull shite that misses the root of the issue,

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Oh got it you are just really dumb

They should teach Krav Maga

You doubled down