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The Chinese say we need a revolution. Are they right?

Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:14 am
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:14 am
Posted by rob0710
LA
Member since Oct 2004
541 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 6:40 am to
Pretty much every country needs a revolution right now. Authoritarians rule everywhere.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3235 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:01 am to
while "new world order" sounded so ominous, "free trade" sounded so good. the chinese influencer wasn't wrong.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
1167 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:03 am to
I think it was dumb that Trump saved TikTok. China uses it to push their propaganda across the US. China believes that they are in an actual war with the USA. We need to start treating China the same. The West brought China out of the poverty by investing in it and they repay us by stealing Intellectual property and undercutting American goods. We need to stop handling China like they are going to one day wake up and become an actual Democracy.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107517 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:04 am to
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Pretty much every country needs a revolution right now. Authoritarians rule everywhere.


Except in our case, they wear black robs and have never won an election.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
61917 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:14 am to
This is a pretty good rant for all the idiots here who say we must defeat China.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17675 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:10 am to
Thats a Chinese perspective because they have no avenue for political change in their country other than a revolution.
America already had a revolution. Present day we have a better way to effect change, it's called voting in elections.
We the people have to start voting for better representation in congress.
Folks saying our votes don't matter are weak and have a loser mentality. That's their excuse to do nothing. Our votes elected Trump.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
51193 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:19 am to
I just watched a vid clip on Real America's Voice of some CCP dude telling the US, if y'all want to get it on we will be more than happy to accommodate your asses.....he big time triggered.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
4359 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:46 am to
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This is a pretty good rant for all the idiots here who say we must defeat China.


Tariff Boy haz a sad that we might eventually do it. I bet your lower lip was jutted way out when you typed that. Feel better? want some juice?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
7071 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:52 am to
There’s some truth in that clip for those who bother to watch it.

Just because we don’t want to hear it makes it less so.

We (the U.S. through the leaders we elect) opened this Pandora’s box beginning decades ago and we willingly did so with a gigantic communist nation.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
7366 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:08 am to
The Chinks need to be our coolies.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
475 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:12 am to
The CCP is stoking nationalism with the tariffs, they will be united when they come after us. I hope this country can get it together because we are so divided that I don't think we'll unit even if we were to find ourselves under the Chinese bootheel.

I fear what Trump has done is embolden our enemies, both foreign and domestic over out maneuvering them into defeat.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
34912 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:15 am to


What a pussy.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
2599 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:16 am to
... Dude would you take advice from your enemy?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46388 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:30 am to
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China believes that they are in an actual war with the USA. We need to start treating China the same.

Uhh, welcome to this past January.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16511 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:33 am to
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The CCP is stoking nationalism with the tariffs, they will be united when they come after us.

How specifically do you believe they will do that?

A kinetic or terror attack would result in us icing them out of global trade networks before we fired a single round their way. As an export economy they would collapse without western markets to sell to. As we export relatively little to them we would be relatively fine as we shifted our imports to nations like Vietnam, India, Mexico and elsewhere while we brought online our own critical manufacturing domestically.

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hope this country can get it together because we are so divided that I don't think we'll unit even if we were to find ourselves under the Chinese bootheel.

This is a fair and valid concern. Trump has my unequivocal support, but there is no realistic path to getting the leftist base to align behind him given the history since 2016.

Fortunately we don’t need them. We just need the center and the GOPe to stop backing the globalists and the hard left becomes an angry group of dissent without any real consequence from an agency standpoint so long as their money cords are cut from fedgov via USAID and DOGE.

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I fear what Trump has done is embolden our enemies, both foreign and domestic over out maneuvering them into defeat.

“Our” enemies were going to be maneuvering against “us” regardless of what Trump decided to do.

You can’t be afraid of action. Trump is counterattacking them all on a grand front without precedent and has the power of the US government with him.

Wars cannot be won purely on the defensive, stop thinking just in terms of what “our” enemy is doing and start considering the fronts on which you can impact them assuming “our” goals are actually aligned which is to say the reemergence of America as an economic powerhouse capable of standing on its own and employing its middle and working classes without shipping its wealth overseas to the detriment of both current and future generations.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55742 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 9:36 am to
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Pretty much every country needs a revolution right now. Authoritarians rule everywhere.


Exactly, each country needs a civil war where the people take out the government and start over!
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17675 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:09 am to
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This is a pretty good rant for all the idiots here who say we must defeat China.


I don't care if we "defeat" China. I just don't want us to be continuing to be fricked over by China nor us depending in China for essential goods/products. Also, we should expel all Chinese students here on visas.
Why should we be educating our antagonist/enemy??
Those students come here because China lacks our educational abilities. It's a undermining of our national security to continue to do so.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7329 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:42 am to
frick the Chinese government.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34851 posts
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:57 am to
How do you watch it without having to endure Jimmy Dore?
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