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The Culture War EP. 18 - Emma Vigeland & Sean Fitzgerald, Debating Crime And Social Issues

Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
18294 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:48 am
Tim Pool started doing discussions on cultural issues. This is a good one with Emma Vigeland who struggles to grasp basic concepts. An absolute loon.

Emma Vigeland is the primary host of TYT Politics, as well as the producer for the channel. She, along with her colleagues, report on political corruption, interviews candidates, and covers grassroots progressive movements across the United States.


LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:49 am to
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Emma Vigeland who struggles to grasp basic concepts


Which is why she's progressive.

Progressivism requires the suspension of belief in the material truth. Its metaphysical and verges on spiritual.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 8:50 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Member since Feb 2007
37115 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:57 am to
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Progressivism requires the suspension of belief in the material truth. Its metaphysical and verges on spiritual.



True, RS. Though such seems paradoxical in effect, as the 'Material' Reality must be a derivative of the Spiritual (metaphysical) Base. If such be the case, then we all move into the realm of Cahn's "The Return of the Gods" territory, as Spiritual Entities (Demons) manifest as the controlling power of the Material Reality. With control being the critical issue.

I have no idea what the above means, but it seems to mean something important.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
61998 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:57 am to
She straight up says children should be afforded a "health care plan" to transition. Pool said the state needs to prevent this as they would with lobotomies and she did not like that.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 8:57 am
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
55393 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:47 am to
Wow.

It was amazing to see the extents to which she would go to completely avoid even acknowledging any area where her stance could be wrong. She completely refused to even recognize that Tim was discussing desistance and how those individuals who desisted weren't counted in the APA study she favored (thus she's relying on a study skewed from the onset).

She seems to have these broad ideas then looks for specific granularity to back her stances instead of assaying the legitimacy of available data then allowing that data to lead her to a conclusion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281843 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:48 am to
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It was amazing to see the extents to which she would go to completely avoid even acknowledging any area where her stance could be wrong.


Because they know its wrong and cannot be defended.

The idea is to destroy society.
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 1:15 pm to
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She completely refused to even recognize that Tim was discussing desistance and how those individuals who desisted weren't counted in the APA study she favored

Apparently they find it to be them to be to rare to count.

the atlantic - 2018
quote:

The Loaded Language Shaping the Trans Conversation

To focus on “desisters”—people who experience gender dysphoria and then ultimately decide not to transition—is to focus on the rarest of cases, and to ignore the vastly more common experience of trans teens: that of being second-guessed.
This post was edited on 6/25/23 at 1:16 pm
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 6/25/23 at 3:19 pm to
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To focus on “desisters”—people who experience gender dysphoria and then ultimately decide not to transition—is to focus on the rarest of cases, and to ignore the vastly more common experience of trans teens: that of being second-guessed.


Because their thinking they are born with the wrong genitalia is a completely mental endeavor. It's no different than a child saying they are a dog, someone suffering from anorexia, etc. In no other instance of such a distorted view of Self do we say indulging the warped view (especially to the point of mutilation/self-harm) is the healthy thing to do.

But, as is common for Leftists, they accept only those specifics which bolster their arguments while avoiding anything to the contrary.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14021 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:51 am to
Just listened, man that bitch is arrogant.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95699 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:53 am to
She is dreadful, ugh - I got ptsd from watching that. Reminds me of my ex.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
61998 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 8:56 am to
The main problem is she is citing American Journal of Pediatrics or whatever, so now she has "science" on her side. You can't even debate at that point. The medical community is going to look back in horror in a few decades at what they promoted.
This post was edited on 6/26/23 at 8:58 am
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