The line of demarcation has been defined, Submissive Globalists vs US Sovereignists.

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MAGA isn't even America First.
It's Israel First. Talk about submissive globalism...

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There are some really stupid UGA fans.

There's a third side. American Exceptionalists.

There are those of us that don't want submissive globalism or submissive isolationism. We want peace through true strength (aka willingness to kill people and break things) and we don't want evil people running things.

We don't want American interests being subverted while we have the world's most powerful military and the world's largest economy. We don't want to withdraw from the world stage and let China and Russia build the next century.

You can call it imperialist if you want, but making sure American interests are protected is pretty America First if you ask me.

I believe the globalist Democrats have stolen tons of elections across the nation in the past 30 years

Painting lines in broad generalities like this is what they want you to do. Useful idiot

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Athens is a sanctuary city

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Only predominately white county in the state that is blue. SMH

I think the line is more clearly marked as isolationists vs globalists.


I believe both the US is sovereign and should drive world politics as the clear leader of the free world.

Maga seems to want to destroy our working relationships with allies. The encouragement of other countries to be nationalist is gonna end in more war vs cooperation and reduction of us hegemony across the globe.

You may notice how Putin doesn't respect trump enough to heed his diplomacy and all Trump's done is suck up to him and bitch about zelensky. Wonder why that didn't work as diplomacy in this situation?

It would seem a great number the Western elites (political and business) had really developed a fondness for the CCP style blend of capitalism being permitted under the authoritative and unchallenged societal control of a powerful centralized government.

The vast amount of true wealth and power has increasingly been consolidated into the hands of fewer in the West. And most of these people are elitist whites that live a trans-Atlantic lifestyle and view the greater masses (of all colors) as mere chess pieces in a greater game.

I think their collective push to “de-nationalize” Western nations via Open Borders serves two purposes at this point:

They believe the drop in birth rates throughout Western nations leaves the welfare system at risk unless workers are brought in to help continue to keep it funded (and if the masses start getting antsy if their government safety nets disappear that could be problematic).

They probably also believe the “browning” of Western nations will ultimately result in an underclass that will be happily dependent and ultimately unable to ever mount a serious threat to the power of the elites (I personally think they are playing with fire with this mindset but these elites believe they were born to rule and lead so I think a healthy dose of myopia leads them to feel they will always be immune from the consequences of their own actions).

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There's nothing exceptional about borrowing yourself into such a deep hole that you have to borrow more to pay the interest and the increasing annual deficits

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This is true, but it's due to social welfare programs, not our military spending. And global trade has made good cheaper, so we would be in even more debt if goods were more expensive and we had to raise SS and welfare payments for the poor.

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Or entering foreign conflicts that don't support your national security interests and put you much deeper into that debt hole

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It's simplistic to think what's going on in the world doesn't affect our economic security. We need a market for our goods. 350 million people can't support a GDP the size of America's, and our birthrate is on the decline.

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Or becoming dependent on foreigners to provide necessities that you've lost the ability to make for yourself, including things necessary to fight those unnecessary wars, not to mention the sars that might eventually be necessary to protect your homeland.

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Global communications closed the book on economic and military isolationism. That's not coming back.

We're dependent on foreigners because their products are either cheaper or better.

If they're better, then Americans need to do better.

If they're cheaper, it's because American labor, regulations, taxes and cost of capital is much higher than in other places and need to be addressed.

You cannot step away from the global market without American standards of living declining, because Americans won't be able to afford a lot of what they buy now when it's made in America.

And before you say "jobs will increase and wages will make up the difference", what do you think American Capitalist are going to do:

A) Build a factory and hire thousands of people who demand high wages, health care and a pension
B) Automate the shite out of it to limit labor costs.

Globalism is the past, present and future. No escaping it. So if we're going to play the game, we need to play to win. Period.

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Maga seems to want to destroy our working relationships with allies.

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Oh baloney! MAGA wants our allies to pay their fair share of the burden of defense. Naturally our allies are reluctant to do that, and making them do it requires some ugly confrontations.

If the alternative to your “destruction of our working relationships” is that we have to pay their bills, then how are they allies? They sound more like parasites.