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Trump says Zelensky's comments are "very harmful to the Peace Negotiations with Russia"
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:34 pm
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:39 pm to John Barron
I would like to ask the pro Ukraine, fund the war at all costs crowd on here, what can be done? Ukraine is not pushing Russian forces out without major US and NATO assistance. Is this the war you want?
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:55 pm to John Barron
This situation reminds me of trying to help someone and they begin to detail out exactly how they want you to help them.....
Ya can't help folks that don't want it. We've spent 200 billion tax payer dollars to help this lil dictator, it's time to cut Ukraine loose. frick em
Ya can't help folks that don't want it. We've spent 200 billion tax payer dollars to help this lil dictator, it's time to cut Ukraine loose. frick em
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:56 pm to lake chuck fan
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frick em
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:59 pm to John Barron
Z is a puppet to Western globalists (certainly including our own U.S. members).
DJT isn’t going to get anywhere with this guy.
DJT isn’t going to get anywhere with this guy.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:06 pm to John Barron
So now Trump has to fix Obama's mess?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:09 pm to John Barron
We would say the same thing if Russia occupied Alaska. I don’t understand the distain for Zelensky. Is it because Trump said his approval rating was 4%? That was just another lie
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:11 pm to eddieray
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:13 pm to eddieray
We wouldn't say anything. We would take care of it because: 1) it involves us and 2) we have the abilities to do something about it. Can you see the difference?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:16 pm to John Barron
While Zelensky has a point that Crimea was taken from Ukraine unlawfully, I don't believe there's a chance in hell that it will belong to Ukraine ever again.
But Zelensky isn't boasting, he's simply being intransigent. You'd think someone as boastful as Trump would understand the difference.
But Zelensky isn't boasting, he's simply being intransigent. You'd think someone as boastful as Trump would understand the difference.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:22 pm to John Barron
While back Zelensky took a train from Poland to Kiev. Seriously Russia should have taken him out.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:24 pm to Great Plains Drifter
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DJT isn’t going to get anywhere with this guy.
This.
Z man is listening to the Globalists and Democrats who tell him to keep the war going until after Trump is out of office, and then we'll ramp up military support to you.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:30 pm to John Barron
Here is the situation in a nut shell.
1. The democrats, the UK, France, Germany and many others of less significance are ruled by the Globalist/kabal/illuminate. Whatever name you want to give them.
2. The USA has been ruled by these same entities with the exception of Trump ever since RR was shot with Trump being the only exception and Trumps first term they still had a huge influence over him.
3. Ukraine was overthrown by these entities during the coup. Zelenskyy is a puppet of these entities.
4. There entities do not want peace with Russia right now. Russia refuses to bow to the globalist.
5. Therefore, Zelenskyy will do as he is told and has no intention of going against their wishes.
So there will be no peace. Zelenskyy is not serious about negotiations. That is all for show and to make russia look bad. Nothing he has proposed has been anywhere close to reasonable.
He wants Russia to withdraw, pay for the damages, and have Putin turn himself in for prosecution and NATO membership... all this while they are losing.
There is only one logical course for action of the USA right now if you want this war to end. And that is for the USA to stop helping Ukraine.
This would be bad bad for Ukraine and would lead to either the entire country falling to Russia or Ukraine brokering an end.
The alternative is to drag out the war and end up at the same place with more death.
But I personally believe the war will drag on, the European powers will get involved at some point in the future and the war will spread through the entirety of Europe and middle east. I hope I am wrong.
1. The democrats, the UK, France, Germany and many others of less significance are ruled by the Globalist/kabal/illuminate. Whatever name you want to give them.
2. The USA has been ruled by these same entities with the exception of Trump ever since RR was shot with Trump being the only exception and Trumps first term they still had a huge influence over him.
3. Ukraine was overthrown by these entities during the coup. Zelenskyy is a puppet of these entities.
4. There entities do not want peace with Russia right now. Russia refuses to bow to the globalist.
5. Therefore, Zelenskyy will do as he is told and has no intention of going against their wishes.
So there will be no peace. Zelenskyy is not serious about negotiations. That is all for show and to make russia look bad. Nothing he has proposed has been anywhere close to reasonable.
He wants Russia to withdraw, pay for the damages, and have Putin turn himself in for prosecution and NATO membership... all this while they are losing.
There is only one logical course for action of the USA right now if you want this war to end. And that is for the USA to stop helping Ukraine.
This would be bad bad for Ukraine and would lead to either the entire country falling to Russia or Ukraine brokering an end.
The alternative is to drag out the war and end up at the same place with more death.
But I personally believe the war will drag on, the European powers will get involved at some point in the future and the war will spread through the entirety of Europe and middle east. I hope I am wrong.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:33 pm to omegaman66
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omegaman66
Nice post and 100% spot on
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:36 pm to eddieray
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Is it because Trump said his approval rating was 4%? That was just another lie
This is dumb. Who cares what Z's numbers are? If Ukraine backs Zelensky with high approval numbers, then they can face the consequences from keeping him in that position.
The only reason its above 50 in the US is because Democrats in large number support Ukraine (probably because Trump doesnt so it really has nothing to do with the issue at hand).
Its that simple.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:40 pm to eddieray
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We would say the same thing if Russia occupied Alaska. I don’t understand the distain for Zelensky. Is it because Trump said his approval rating was 4%? That was just another lie
Seriously??? Have you looked at a map lately??
Zylenski allowed himself and his country to be used as cannon fodder in someone else "war" when got in bed with the globalist neocons in the US. Ukraine never had a chance, he should have stopped this 2 yeras ago.
Ukraine is Europes problem. Let them deal with it and use their tax payers dollars.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 1:57 pm to John Barron
When Trump says frick Ukraine and pulls all funding and military equipment, weapons, etc.. will Zelensky legally recognize Russia's total occupation of Ukraine?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:16 pm to lake chuck fan
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Zylenski allowed himself and his country to be used as cannon fodder in someone else "war" when got in bed with the globalist neocons in the US. Ukraine never had a chance, he should have stopped this 2 yeras ago.
But why are y’all banging on him for not recognizing Russian occupation of Crimea. They got invaded no matter how you spin it.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:19 pm to Champagne
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Z man is listening to the Globalists and Democrats who tell him to keep the war going until after Trump is out of office, and then we'll ramp up military support to you.
US weapons supply runs out sometime in June, and they aint getting more.
Europe promised more.....just like their billions pledged to global warming....and the 2% they were supposed to pay to NATO for the last 60 years. They dont have them, they cant make them, and the money they have will soon be spent on tariffs.
z is WAAAY overestimating the dems pulling a rabbit out of their hat for him. It aint happening.
I would like to see an audit and him jailed for all the theft.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:24 pm to John Barron
No one can say we didn't try, cut them loose
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