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re: Trump up +24 with independents

Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:23 pm to
Well Harris is up 100% among fraudulent ballots, so I guess we'll see how that plays out.
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:23 pm to
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AZ - Mark Kelly will be the VP and that will give her AZ

Are there any documented cases in a Presidential election where the VP pick was crucial (as in, a big influence in actual results) to that candidate winning that state?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 3:26 pm to
Elections are weird nowadays.

I’m not sure we can apply past logic to current systems.
Posted by AUbused
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 5:45 pm to
LOL ok
Posted by Mrtommorrow1987
Twilight Zone
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:09 pm to
Kelly is another fricking communist
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:11 pm to
This tracks with pre drop out polling on Indy’s with Kamala. She was the one candidate they couldn’t afford to nominate. lol
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:15 pm to
The Men for Harris of the OT (ronbots) are so mad
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:17 pm to
That’s fraud proof there. They’re back to over sampling Ds again in MSM polls.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:17 pm to
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AZ - Mark Kelly will be the VP and that will give her AZ

GA - Dems will run clips of Trump calling black women nasty and that will give her GA

WI - toss up, but Trump took a big hit in Michigan yesterday and they often vote the same.


Wishful thinking on your part. Sorry.
Posted by theballguy
Playoffs? Closed for the season.
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:20 pm to
Georgia a solid blue state. After the 80's I thought I'd never see that again
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:25 pm to
Well what do ya know
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Georgia a solid blue state. After the 80's I thought I'd never see that again
Dont take that map to mean anything.

The map doesn’t even reflect the actual results of the poll.

That poll, which is extremely questionable (they have swing state MI going to Harris with a wider margin than states like WA and OR, all while having Harris up 2 pts in the GE), actually still has PA as red.

The same poll gave a 7 pt swing to Harris in AZ while every other poll has had Trump up 5-6 pts.

The map doesn’t correlate with the poll and the poll is pretty garbage.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:30 pm to
I do not think it will be enough to overthrow the swing state cheat, and the millions of illegals that will vote.

Happy to see it, we need more.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:30 pm to
So we believe this but the poll Monday showing Kamala is +15 with Independents over Trump is not?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
73554 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
Can you post that poll?

Most polls I’ve seen regarding independents have shown Trump up.
This post was edited on 8/2/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Georgia a solid blue state. After the 80's I thought I'd never see that again



General consensus is Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada lean red; Michigan starting to lean blue (but by a lesser margin than AZ/GA/NV); PA and Wisconsin are toss ups
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
You believe she was up +15 with Indies in a week?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
This must be one of those real polls I keep hearing about.
Posted by Old1937
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:32 pm to
very obvious one was LBJ.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 8/2/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

So we believe this but the poll Monday showing Kamala is +15 with Independents over Trump is not?



This is why no one should take any polls, especially Morning Consult, too seriously. They are completely and totally all over the place- only thing worth reviewing at this point is a general trend of the top line.
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