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Trump Vows Day One Executive Order Targeting Offshore Wind

Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:56 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 7:56 am
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Donald Trump vowed to issue an executive order targeting offshore wind development if he wins a second term as president, making his most explicit threat yet toward the growing industry.

The presumptive Republican nominee derided offshore wind projects as lethal for birds and whales during his oceanfront rally Saturday in Wildwood, New Jersey, and committed to take action.

“We are going to make sure that that ends on day one,” he said. “I’m going to write it out in an executive order.”

While Trump has made no secret of his animus to wind power, he had adopted a mostly hands-off posture during his first term in the White House. The remarks in New Jersey suggest he may take a more aggressive stance if given a second.

While Trump wasn’t specific, a president could issue an executive order directing a fresh study of the impact of offshore wind and halting the permitting of new projects in the meantime. President Joe Biden used a similar approach to order a moratorium on offshore oil leasing during his first week in the White House.

Developers say offshore wind is set to deliver big economic dividends — and potentially $25 billion in annual output — throughout the US, as it drives demand for specialty steel, new ships and other equipment. The same day Trump was speaking in New Jersey, a new American-built boat to service US offshore wind farms was christened in New Orleans.

Trump’s accusations Saturday included that offshore wind farms “kill the whales” because of ocean floor surveys done to plan construction. “Nobody even knows what it is,” he said, “but I think in 20 years one whale washed up on shore, and then where they have these things, they come up all the time, dead.”

While there has been an uptick in humpback whale deaths since 2016 — including the endangered North Atlantic right whale — US scientists say many of the fatalities can be attributed to boat strikes or entanglements. There is no evidence linking offshore wind development to whale deaths, though government scientists have raised concerns about the consequences of greater noise, more vessel traffic and habitat changes tied to the industry.

Offshore wind advocates say Trump would be better off embracing a new source of American-made energy.

“The fundamental value proposition of offshore wind remains clear: Safe, reliable, large-scale renewable energy production, good-paying union jobs, and significant public health and economic benefits,” said Paulina O’Connor, executive director of the New Jersey Offshore Wind Alliance. “By capitalizing on this emerging American industry, we remain in prime position to maximize the benefits of offshore wind for decades to come through US-based jobs, manufacturing and investment.”


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Personally, I'm not a favor of trying to ban an energy source that can be generated in a safe manner in an open market environment. However, we've with the recent Gulf of Mexico offshore federal lease sales that there doesn't appear to be a demand and want by industry to bid on tracts to invest in these projects. At least not along the GOM coast.

Maybe the anti-fossil fuel folks along the NY, Jersey and Maine shores would like to invest off their coasts so they can lessen their dependence on fossil fuels for energy? Maybe the Pacific coasts of CA, Oregon and Washington?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119050 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:02 am to
If these offshore wind turbines are killing whales it's not worth it, especially when we have other more environmentally safe energy alternatives like hydrocarbons.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35565 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:05 am to
Energy cannot be created or destroyed. We are taking away the wind and think it won’t have any consequences? The same people worried about climate change are literally changing the climate.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4483 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:06 am to
The people who would be offended by the offshore windmill farms for renewable energy aren't going to vote for Trump anyway.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68320 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:07 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147486 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:08 am to
they did not consider the first 80 mile per hour tropical depression causes these offshore wind blades to be destroyed and kill all in it's path.

they are killing whales for failure.

desal plants is the way to go like the one in GTMO NAS, Cuba, but they won't do it because some say it is too expensive. but it pays for itself having a water source. a desal plant provides water for all on GTMO NAS, Cuba.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85849 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:08 am to
I’d rather a day one executive order eliminating and reassigning the FBI
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4551 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:16 am to
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toward the growing industry.

The sole reason it's growing is because of political pressure / support/ subsidy. Take that away and it doesn't exist.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119050 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:18 am to
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Energy cannot be created or destroyed.


True but entropy is the issue (2nd law of thermo). We access or create pockets of low entropy sources for energy.

I'm not worried about it though.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31154 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:29 am to
God forbid we use natural gas or nuclear.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5647 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:32 am to
Or coal
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21456 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:35 am to
Or good ole natural gas.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27817 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:59 am to
I don't really care overall about the wind turbines. But a lot of those wind turbine deaths predate installation of those turbines especially off the Long Island coast.

It was / is not all that unusual to have a whale or 3 was up near Montauk and that's going back years if not more than a century. Usually juvenile whales who get caught in bad places like active fishing grounds.

Knew a commercial fisherman up there who would complain that whales were getting caught up in his nets. The adults had no problem dealing with them, but the young ones could end up drowning because of them
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9632 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:07 am to
What a retarded take by trump. Y'all believe this?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119050 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:12 am to
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What a retarded take by trump.


Why?
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5728 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:12 am to
When these turbine blades get retired, do they just dump them into the water or do they go add them to the blade graveyards?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79382 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:15 am to
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making his most explicit threat yet toward the growing industry.


Aren't these wind projects almost fully govt funded like solar?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47728 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:16 am to
Wind is definitely his enemy.



Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15252 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:18 am to
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While there has been an uptick in humpback whale deaths since 2016 — including the endangered North Atlantic right whale — US scientists say many of the fatalities can be attributed to boat strikes or entanglements. There is no evidence linking offshore wind development to whale deaths, though government scientists have raised concerns about the consequences of greater noise, more vessel traffic and habitat changes tied to the industry.


If gas ovens and ranges cause climate change then offshore wind farms can sure cause whales to die. I guaranty.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:27 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35565 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:21 am to
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We access or create pockets of low entropy


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