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re: Trump vs Powell. It’s On!
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Yes. Economic Growth slowed 30% in 3Q and 4Q 2019 d/t Fed Policy, significantly underperforming expectations in the 4thQ preCV19
The economy slowed during trump’s first term?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:47 am to NC_Tigah
So our economy needed basically free money to continue growing?
It’s not like interest rates were ever high during the first trump admin. They went from near 0 to 2.5%
We are at 4.5% now.
It’s not like interest rates were ever high during the first trump admin. They went from near 0 to 2.5%
We are at 4.5% now.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:55 am to NC_Tigah
Calling me an idiot doesn’t change the fact that rates were raise too slow from 2015 to 2018, and they shouldn’t have been lowered in the back end of 2019.
They were keeping artificially low, with Trump championing the artificially low rates because he didn’t want to be the bad guy to slow down the economy. The economy was humming along. There was zero reason to keep the rates for .5% to 2.5% from 2016 to 2019. They were still considered historically low. By 2018 the rate should have been around 4.5% to 5%
They were keeping artificially low, with Trump championing the artificially low rates because he didn’t want to be the bad guy to slow down the economy. The economy was humming along. There was zero reason to keep the rates for .5% to 2.5% from 2016 to 2019. They were still considered historically low. By 2018 the rate should have been around 4.5% to 5%
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:00 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:Nor does it change the fact that you demonstrate no clue whatsoever as to FOMC rate drivers and/or mandate.
Calling me an idiot doesn’t change the fact
quote:You don't know WTF you are talking about. Your willingness to repeat clueless comments is what makes you an idiot.
They were keeping artificially low, with Trump
ETA:
quote:Good Lord!
By 2018 the rate should have been around 4.5% to 5%

This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:John Taylor would like a word, as would the Fed Mandate. The rest is irrelevant.
So our economy needed basically free money to continue growing?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:04 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:
the rates should stay exactly where they are now
Correct. Until inflation gets below 2%, they shouldn't move it. It will be years before we see any wage benefits from reshoring manufacturing, but it will be weeks before we see the price pressure from increased tariffs. Any inflationary move by the fed may not be recoverable by the mid-terms, or even the next Presidential election.
If we're playing the long game, we need to ensure our dollar holds its value, especially if China retaliates by flooding the market with cheap bonds.
There is only one way Democrats take back Congress or the White House, and that's a slow economy. We could be in three wars and people would still vote for the incumbents if the economy is strong.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:07 pm to Bunk Moreland
I hate the FED
Trump hates the FED
I now love the FED
Trump hates the FED
I now love the FED
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:08 pm to NC_Tigah
What about the Fed’s mandate would have led them to decrease rates prior to Q3 2019? Inflation was low and employment was very strong prior to their cuts.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:26 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:
So our economy needed basically free money to continue growing?
Yes and it should concern the hell out of everyone.
Going back to 2008 the federal deficit has been larger than GDP growth for every year but three (2015, 2017 & 2021). The last year was just an outcropping from the insane level COVID deficit spending in 2020 & 2021.
Since COVID, deficit spending has averaged 89% higher than GDP growth.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:26 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:We were below target rates while maintaining restrictive policy.
What about the Fed’s mandate
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:59 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
Powell needs to stop playing politics and cut rates
No one wants to comment on how he never raised rates while Obama was president. Even when Obama was saying there was no magic wand to bring the economy back. The Fed falsely propped him up, because they had to DEI the presidency
Pure politics
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:03 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:Ae have the best stagflation don’t we folks?
Powell went on to say this could create a “challenging scenario” for the central bank because anything it does with interest rates to address inflationary pressures could worsen unemployment, and vice versa.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:12 pm to TrueTiger
Three people have down voted your post. I guess they don't believe their lying eyes.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:17 pm to TrueTiger
quote:
He's not acting in the best interest of the American people. He's on a personal vendetta against Trump.
Who appointed Powell as Fed Chair?

I’m not anti-Trump, at all, but this is another example of how bad some of his appointments were during his first term.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:19 pm to Bunk Moreland
Lmao at you
How does it feel to support an anti-god party?
How does it feel to support an anti-god party?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:22 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Lmao at you idiots pretending to be economists.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:23 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:
Powell needs to continue to hold his ground. The rates should have been raised faster during Trump’s first term (when Trump was pushing to keep them artificially low, which was a stupid idea), and the rates should stay exactly where they are now

Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:27 pm to BCreed1
Yeah because DT has nothing to do with it
It’s everyone else. Never DT. Ever.

It’s everyone else. Never DT. Ever.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:28 pm to Mandtgr47
100%
Most of these monkeydicks couldn’t reconcile a fricking piggy bank…..
Most of these monkeydicks couldn’t reconcile a fricking piggy bank…..
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