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re: We now have the dissent of Justice Samuel Alito, joined by Justice Clarence Thomas

Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:46 am to
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And it is currently being ignored.


Also Biden ignored the Constitution and violated tens of millions of Americans rights. Progressives cheered that EO.

Chock on a bag of dicks if you think we're going to care about an illegal MS13 member being prematurely deported due to paperwork issues.
This post was edited on 4/20/25 at 10:47 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:47 am to
Think of the children!!
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:48 am to
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Ok perfect, yeah has any other admin defied the Supreme Court? That’s what I’m interested in.


Go for it. Start as many threads as you want and lay out your grievances and examples. Each case can be argued on the merits.

But it simply shouldn’t be this hard for Americans to agree to preserve the Constitution.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:51 am to
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Also Biden ignored the Constitution and violated tens of millions of Americans rights. Progressives cheered that EO. Chock on a bag of dicks if you think we're going to care about an illegal MS13 member being prematurely deported due to paperwork issues.


I hear what you’re saying. That Biden EO angered a lot of people to the point where they now want Trump to ignore the Supreme Court.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17810 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:51 am to
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That fact that you’re a constitutional conservative OK with renditioning “others” away before a court can rule is another problem.


This is where I become confused, or can't begin to understand your side of this issue.
Garcia was twice found to be a memeber of MS13 and ordered deported. Twice, by two different judges which he chose to ignore.
He had his due process, twice.
This post was edited on 4/20/25 at 10:56 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:52 am to
The Constitution isn’t imperiled by a President deporting a gang-banging wife-beater who has been here illegally for a decade.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17810 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:55 am to
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No. The Supreme Court has ruled. And it is currently being ignored


Again, I don't understand your side of this situation. SCOTUS ordered that this admin "facilitate " his return. El Salvador has refused to return its citizen, whom it has full jurisdiction over, the US. What more can Trump do? Send the military to break him outta of prison?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25134 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:56 am to
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where they now want Trump to ignore the Supreme Court.


You haven't established Trump has ignored it.

He publicly put the ball in the El Salvadorian Presidents hands and he didn't seem willing to give the gang member up.

Unless you have correspondences between them setting this public decline up you're just guessing.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8305 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 10:57 am to
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The Constitution isn’t imperiled by a President deporting a gang-banging wife-beater who has been here illegally for a decade.


I disagree. You are acting like there isn’t a crisis currently happening. But it is.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8305 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:02 am to
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Again, I don't understand your side of this situation. SCOTUS ordered that this admin "facilitate " his return. El Salvador has refused to return its citizen, whom it has full jurisdiction over, the US. What more can Trump do? Send the military to break him outta of prison?


Yeah it’s a problem that we have. With no solutions being offered.

Trump hasn’t facilitated his return. Hasn’t tried.

Doesn’t appear willing to try. Hosted Bukele and seemed to encourage Bukele to reject the idea.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8305 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:04 am to
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Unless you have correspondences between them setting this public decline up you're just guessing.


I don’t have correspondence. Lack of evidence of action is more accurate.

But my brain doesn’t allow me to believe that the USA, the most powerful nation in the world, cannot negotiate a ham sandwich.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:05 am to
Our judicial is broken- it has become too politically motivated
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:07 am to
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Lack of evidence of action is more accurate.


There’s no action that needs to be taken given the fact that El Salvador has already said they aren’t sending him back
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14492 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:08 am to
I got news for you dude. The left ain’t trying to preserve the constitution, they trying to obstruct the constitution and no amount of shite talk legalese talk ya’ll spit out is gonna change that

This about Trump and nothing else,ya’ll are picking a fricking illegal’s rights to frickin die on and ya’ll gonna frickin die on it for sure.

All you motherfrickers care about is YOUR democracy tha end the end is gonna end as bad for you as it is me. You can take your protect an illegal shite and choke on it, which ultimately you will
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
17810 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:08 am to
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Trump hasn’t facilitated his return. Hasn’t tried.


Thats YOUR opinion, which your entitled to have, but its not definitive. Your opinion doesn't prove or determine Trumps thoughts or motivations.

El Salvador president said no on national tv.
You may not like it, but that's it.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25134 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:14 am to
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But my brain doesn’t allow me to believe that the USA, the most powerful nation in the world, cannot negotiate a ham sandwich.


What are you expecting?

The US to try and move heaven and earth to get this guy back?

Or the US to apply a realistic effort:reward effort to retrieve an illegal gang member that we're going to ultimately deport again anyways?

I'm with you, I have little doubt if the US made getting this guy back it's top priority he'd be back within the day.

But why would they?

We'll facilitate a transfer if El Salvador wants to release him, but we're not going to bribe them to do so. Why would we? It's an illegal MS13 gang member

Anything beyond El Salvador freely sending this guy back on their own dime is too much effort.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
86484 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:17 am to
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AGGIES
Forgive me, but are you debating in good faith here? Your posts come off as a little bit sarcastic.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14323 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:17 am to
I’m starting to think Kavanaugh did rape a girl because he’s certainly ruling like someone is blackmailing him. Him, Roberts, and ACB are absolutely awful.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
24896 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:19 am to
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Well it didn't protect us from Joe Biden doing whatever the hell he wanted. His willful disregard the process is what allowed millions of illegal to stream into this country and created this problem in the first place.


THIS
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
13678 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 11:20 am to
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You haven't established Trump has ignored it.

He publicly put the ball in the El Salvadorian Presidents hands and he didn't seem willing to give the gang member up.

Unless you have correspondences between them setting this public decline up you're just guessing.


Inevitably, he's going to have to ignore some of these nonsense rulings.

Tell some these courts to "bring it".
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