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re: White House proposes eliminating Head Start funding as part of sweeping budget cuts

Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by cdur86
Member since Jan 2014
1355 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:49 pm to
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Where? Several Schools here have eliminated their pre-K 4 programs. Not sure if any ever had pre-K 3.


I'm in Huntsville and not one school has eliminated any Pre-K program and they have all added more Pre-K. Where do you live where they are eliminating them?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78622 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:50 pm to
So flood the country with illegals and not only pay for their housing but pay for their kids' daycare.







Also looking at the things they purchased with this other than desktops and laptops in Louisiana, we have a ford f 250, 3 nissan sentras, one freightliner sprinter van and a nissan frontier.




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De Soto, Natchitoches, and Red River Parishes, Louisiana $3,592,124.00


Those vehicles are the most expensive single items. They spent $32k on the Frontier. Who is driving that around?


This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3928 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:53 pm to
Here in Arkansas we have Pre-3K and Pre-4K and most schools
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20172 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:01 pm to
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This is a quality melt. You love you some daddy government


Sounds like you think your kid is entitled to my money. Feed your own fricking kid
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31008 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:03 pm to
I love a cubbies thread. Always so poorly sourced. How come you left out this study?

Education Week
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Head Start Gains Found to Wash Out by 3rd Grade

Its a glorified babysitting service for mothers to stay home, and not have to raise kids either
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In the final phase of a large-scale, randomized, controlled study of nearly 5,000 children from low-income families, researchers found that the positive effects on literacy and language development demonstrated by children who entered Head Start at age 4 had dissipated by the end of 3rd grade, and that they were, on average, academically indistinguishable from their peers who had not been in Head Start.

And they arent being taught by the best and brightest either
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Two teachers in Louisiana have been placed on leave after an altercation took place between them, according to authorities.

One of the teachers now faces a criminal charge.

The Baton Rouge Police Department said two teachers got into a fight at La Belle Aire Head Start around 10 a.m. Wednesday.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
52833 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:05 pm to
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Sounds like you think your kid is entitled to my money. Feed your own fricking kid


friend. I don’t need your money. I don’t love daddy government. I spend every day of my life trying to make sure government gets less money from its citizens.

Your post was so over the top I thought you were being sarcastic. You weren’t. I’m just fine with eliminating the DOE. But eliminating cafeterias is going to cause problems you haven’t considered.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:07 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78622 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:18 pm to
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Some programs more or less pay for themselves in the long run




Another uninformed take from powerbottom.


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107203 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:19 pm to
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I'm not an expert on the program and the benefits


Hey you were the one who chose to opine that it was “possibly” a worthwhile program. I presented no claim on its worthiness one way or the other. I was just pointing out what a dogshit sort of standard THAT would be to justify the continuation of any government program - especially one that has existed in some form for over 50 years.

At this point, I’d argue everything needs to be in the potential chopping block and you better come up with a better justification than that your program might be beneficial.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:21 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1939 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:19 pm to
For all the folks citing research on the effectiveness of Head Start, have any of you all had any kids in the program and seen first-hand the results?
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2846 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:22 pm to
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For all the folks citing research on the effectiveness of Head Start, have any of you all had any kids in the program and seen first-hand the results?


Respectfully, because I hear what you are saying that it helped your foster kids, that would be anecdotal, not evidence.

Your foster kids most likely saw educational and behavioral improvements because they were living in your home, not because of Head Start.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53666 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Where do you live where they are eliminating them?
New Orleans. Louisiana doesn’t fund pre-K unless the child is poor or has an iep.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1939 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:26 pm to
I agree to some extent but we've had 5 kids come thru our home that participated in Head Start and their biggest gains were socialization skills. I know my knowledge on the subject is anecdotal but I think this is a program that should still exist, maybe as a state program though.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
41761 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:26 pm to
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Leftists do not vote to improve the world, because even when evidence shows the world isn't improving they still do the same thing.

Lefties vote to feel good about themselves and they do not care how many people are destroyed in the process. Their feelings are #1, above life, above parents, above children.

They don't give a shite if your grandma is thrown in front of a train based on the exact ideas they support, it makes them FEEL GOOD to do it. It's never about reality, it's about satisfying their own demented self-righteousness.


Great post.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78622 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:28 pm to
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For all the folks citing research on the effectiveness of Head Start, have any of you all had any kids in the program and seen first-hand the results?


Most likely not here in Louisiana unless you live in some of the least populated parishes like red river parish.


This money isn't going to Baton Rouge and New Orleans.


This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
78622 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:30 pm to
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I agree to some extent but we've had 5 kids come thru our home that participated in Head Start and their biggest gains were socialization skills.



Why can't you socialize them with the kids you foster?



You are moving that responsibility onto someone else paid for by someone else.



Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
53666 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:33 pm to
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You are moving that responsibility onto someone else paid for by someone else.


What are you doing to help society in any way?

Being an a-hole on the internet certainly isn’t cutting it.
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1939 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:35 pm to
The fostering community is pretty close knit and we do socialize the kids with kids from other homes but you have to remember, most of these kids are emotionally traumatized. Its not a bad thing that they go to Head Start and are around other kids that haven't been thru wringer and learn socialization skills from them. I'm guessing if you look at your life you received benefits or services paid for by people other than your family
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 3:36 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
116962 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:40 pm to
Are there any government programs that you are willing to cut or scale back? I agree on the military so do not start there. Go.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
3523 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:42 pm to
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I know you're going to ignore this, but there's no way out of this mess without painful cuts. That goes for programs that both the left and the right support, but no one wants to hear that.


This is the only answer and thread could have ended with it. There’s been cuts I didn’t want to see. We are running a stupid yearly deficit. The American government has to make extremely tough cuts in all areas of government.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31479 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 3:43 pm to
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I'm not an expert on the program and the benefits


yet chose to say this

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Some programs more or less pay for themselves in the long run


and had know way to know the validity of such a statement. classic stuff
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