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Why companies don't manufacture in the US anymore.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:29 am
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:29 am
The reason companies have moved out of the US to manufacture is because it is simply too expensive to build in the US anymore. With all the red tape it is nearly impossible to construct or manufacture anything.
Every single company on Earth would be happy to have a market in the US because we are the pot of gold.
The tariffs, or lack thereof, was the catalyst for many of these companies to move to China and India. They had no choice but to build manufacturing plants in other countries because they were paying upwards of 250% on goods from the US which they were trying to sell to the two most populated countries. So the advantage of manufacturing in the USA is nullified.
If we get rid of tariffs, and Trump is able to make it financially profitable to build in the US again, our economy will absolutely explode. I believe, whole-heartedly, that our economy is on the brink of major growth. If we can get passed the mid-terms with very little disruption, we are on the cusp of exciting times.
Every single company on Earth would be happy to have a market in the US because we are the pot of gold.
The tariffs, or lack thereof, was the catalyst for many of these companies to move to China and India. They had no choice but to build manufacturing plants in other countries because they were paying upwards of 250% on goods from the US which they were trying to sell to the two most populated countries. So the advantage of manufacturing in the USA is nullified.
If we get rid of tariffs, and Trump is able to make it financially profitable to build in the US again, our economy will absolutely explode. I believe, whole-heartedly, that our economy is on the brink of major growth. If we can get passed the mid-terms with very little disruption, we are on the cusp of exciting times.
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Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:30 am to geauxkoo
We've become a country of luxury instead of work is why.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:31 am to geauxkoo
It was the globalist plan to move manufacturing out of the USA. hence why all the regulation was created to do it.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:31 am to geauxkoo
High labor costs in the US is another reason. Unfortunately don't see that changing without something catastrophic happening.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:31 am to geauxkoo
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With all the red tape it is nearly impossible to construct or manufacture anything
Bah gawd that’s Lee Zeldin’s music
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:31 am to geauxkoo
It’s “too” expensive because politicians sold out US workers for “free markets” in Asia and South America. The US was the World leader in manufacturing until it magically became too expensive
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:35 am to geauxkoo
Why pay John $30+ an hour plus benefits and 8 hours a day. When you can pay PingPong, an 8 year old, the absolute bare minimum for 20 hours a day?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:37 am to geauxkoo
It is also important to remember that we are still the number 2 manufacturer in world behind China, a country with 3-4 times our population.
Trump believes in tariffs in a way that I and most economists don't, but maybe he has the secret sauce. What I was hoping is that he would use more targeted tariffs to improve specific bargaining positions or favor industries needed for national security. Instead, he has gone full blown global trade war. I very much hope he is right and that it's worth it in the end. I am not going to engage in sweaty handwringing. He can pivot away from tariffs if they do too much harm to the economy.
Trump believes in tariffs in a way that I and most economists don't, but maybe he has the secret sauce. What I was hoping is that he would use more targeted tariffs to improve specific bargaining positions or favor industries needed for national security. Instead, he has gone full blown global trade war. I very much hope he is right and that it's worth it in the end. I am not going to engage in sweaty handwringing. He can pivot away from tariffs if they do too much harm to the economy.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:38 am to geauxkoo
My company has been and still is manufacturing in the USA for the last 42 years.
Is it harder? Yes.
Difficult to find skilled engineering and production personnel? frick yes.
Hard to provide competitive benefits. frick yes.
We have managed to do it through strength of will and committed ownership.
People still want to buy Made In USA if you give them a reason too.
Is it harder? Yes.
Difficult to find skilled engineering and production personnel? frick yes.
Hard to provide competitive benefits. frick yes.
We have managed to do it through strength of will and committed ownership.
People still want to buy Made In USA if you give them a reason too.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:46 am to geauxkoo
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The reason companies have moved out of the US to manufacture is because it is simply too expensive to build in the US anymore. With all the red tape it is nearly impossible to construct or manufacture anything.
They’ve moved overseas to China and India because it’s an easy end run around costly environmental protections. We’ve simply offloaded our pollution to the other side of the globe. Want proof? Look at the biggest criticism of all these climate deals. China and India are always excluded. Big business doesn’t want them included because they don’t want the extra costs.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:46 am to geauxkoo
Why build in the US and deal with regulations when you can do it in Indian and have no regulations. You can dump your chemical waste in the streets and the Indians will smile while they make foot soup out of it
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:48 am to geauxkoo
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If we get rid of tariffs,
Can the countries that sell goods to the US stop tariffing the US's goods?
Do you know why you don't see US made cars in europe?
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:53 am to geauxkoo
Boomers and Xers on this board like Roger have gaslit themselves into thinking America can forever be a consumer economy. The main thing we manufacture now...is dollars to pay for all the shite made out of country.
Dont let them fool you. If we tried something other than tariffs to bring manufacturing back...like tax incentives or any other kind of govt incentive, theyd still be bitching.
The truth is, they lived through the times of plenty and instead of setting aside provisions for times of famine, they spent it all...and they are pulling up the ladder behind them
Dont let them fool you. If we tried something other than tariffs to bring manufacturing back...like tax incentives or any other kind of govt incentive, theyd still be bitching.
The truth is, they lived through the times of plenty and instead of setting aside provisions for times of famine, they spent it all...and they are pulling up the ladder behind them
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:57 am to notsince98
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It was the globalist plan to move manufacturing out of the USA. hence why all the regulation was created to do it.
Was going to post the exact same thing. People for to long believed it was just incompetence or typical govt red tape when in fact is was a plan. We regulate ourselves out of business while paying tariffs to sell any America goods from companies that refused to leave.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:57 am to idlewatcher
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We've become a country of luxury instead of work is why.
It's pretty sad most towns and cities in America would list their #1 industry as "tourism".. More Hotels, more restaurants, more Resorts. America's industry is taking money from other Americans.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:58 am to geauxkoo
It's also the unions that won't let companies fire worthless employees, threaten strikes and demand salaries that can prohibit growth...
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:59 am to PNW_TigerSaint
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High labor costs in the US is another reason. Unfortunately don't see that changing without something catastrophic happening.
What if he's able to do away with income tax?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:01 pm to Houag80
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People still want to buy Made In USA if you give them a reason too.
If enough people felt this way tariffs wouldn’t be needed.
The vast majority of Americans base their purchases on price first, everything else is a distant second.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:02 pm to bbvdd
Yes, you don't see US auto's in Europe is because they are simply not allowed. Or they can't afford to because of the tariffs.
What if China can't sell their cars in the US anymore, what does that do to the US automakers? What does that do to Chinese automakers?
What if China can't sell their cars in the US anymore, what does that do to the US automakers? What does that do to Chinese automakers?
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:06 pm to geauxkoo
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The reason companies have moved out of the US to manufacture is because it is simply too expensive to build in the US anymore. With all the red tape it is nearly impossible to construct or manufacture anything.
Every single company on Earth would be happy to have a market in the US because we are the pot of gold.
The tariffs, or lack thereof, was the catalyst for many of these companies to move to China and India. They had no choice but to build manufacturing plants in other countries because they were paying upwards of 250% on goods from the US which they were trying to sell to the two most populated countries. So the advantage of manufacturing in the USA is nullified.
If we get rid of tariffs, and Trump is able to make it financially profitable to build in the US again, our economy will absolutely explode. I believe, whole-heartedly, that our economy is on the brink of major growth. If we can get passed the mid-terms with very little disruption, we are on the cusp of exciting times.
You are right but there are things we produce in this country, which are second to none.
eAnything as long as it's not the government. eCommerce, eSales, eSoftware in general. The examples out there however prove your point.
I work for the power company -- I found out [around here] that the low-voltage communications companies no longer allow their employees to climb poles. You can imagine why. Cost of insurance.
But even ladders have a liability attached to them as their manufacturers have been sued.
I know a bastard of a man who made tens of millions off of an insurance company for a water heater manufacturer -- remember the reason so many gas water heaters were raised off the floor? He argued successfully the litigation costs wouldn't amount to more than $35 dollars to new sales.
Tort reform is a must
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