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Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:11 am
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:11 am
My business has a custom software that we've been building and working with a software developer on it. We have not been pleased with them to date but have dealt with it because changing would be a lot of work. They have not sent us a increase in their hourly rate out of the blue and are making it effective immediately, even though we have ongoing projects with them. This was the final straw for me.

Problem is, I know nothing about software development so i'm not sure where to turn. I do not know how this software was built (meaning what platform) so i'm not sure how to find a new company. All i know is that it's housed on AWS.

Can anyone who is familiar with this world enlighten me on how to start the process of finding a new developer? I am not wanting them to find out about this as I am afraid they will just stop working on the critical components they are currently working on and then we'll be in deep $hit.

Thank you!
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:34 am to
Do you have access to the code and/or AWS account?
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Do you have access to the code and/or AWS account?


I have access to the AWS account. I am not sure where the code is housed.
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1853 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:09 pm to
Regardless if you stay with them or not. Get access to the code.

Ideally they would compile the code that they give you when putting anything into Production.

I've seen instances where a company will give you bullshite code, tell you it's the production code.

You then divorce and are screwed

Posted by FuzzyBearE
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2016
450 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:35 pm to
Check your contract and see if they are supplying you with the source code - or just the final product.

If you don't have source code - it's going to be next to impossible for another developer to step in and pick up the work.



Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78089 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:32 pm to
may i ask what your app does? browser-based?

any idea what language(s) they are using to build it?
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Check your contract and see if they are supplying you with the source code - or just the final product.

If you don't have source code - it's going to be next to impossible for another developer to step in and pick up the work.


We do own everything for this software. We own the source code and the final product. The "final product" is an ongoing system that we continuously update, but we do own the source code to it.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

may i ask what your app does? browser-based?



The app is 2-fold. Part one of it is a construction takeoff system where it does counts for us based on architectural plans that we're filling out. For instance, for every room, we make a dot for our product and then the system is automatically counting these dots. The 2nd part is a message schedule where it's taking all those dots and putting them in a schedule that our project management team uses to move the project into production and installation.

quote:

any idea what language(s) they are using to build it?


This is what I do not know and i'm trying to find out.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12873 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

This is what I do not know and i'm trying to find out.

Doesn't AWS have an internal code repository (repo) such as Github? I thought it did. If so, odds are your code is there, assuming the developer didn't snag it all down and be a dick.
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Doesn't AWS have an internal code repository (repo) such as Github?


I'm sure, but when I log into the AWS account, it's a foreign language to me.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12873 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:53 pm to
Look for a section on there almost like a "sub-portal" titled Github or Github Ultimate. Or anything titled "Repository", code repo, etc.

I haven't been into the private sector of AWS in a long time and even then, they can vary based on what you've paid for for your instance.
They definitely use GitHub: LINK /
Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Doesn't AWS have an internal code repository (repo) such as Github?

I'm sure, but when I log into the AWS account, it's a foreign language to me.



When you log into the AWS console look for a search bar just right of the AWS logo at the top of the screen. Search for a service called CodeCommit. That is the AWS code repository. The code may still be on your developers GitHub (or other equivalent service) account, but if they have it on your AWS account it'll be on the CodeCommit service.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2901 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

When you log into the AWS console look for a search bar just right of the AWS logo at the top of the screen. Search for a service called CodeCommit. That is the AWS code repository. The code may still be on your developers GitHub (or other equivalent service) account, but if they have it on your AWS account it'll be on the CodeCommit service.


Assuming this isn't a good sign.

Posted by Day Wisher
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2010
400 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Assuming this isn't a good sign.


Yep, looks like you're going to have to get the source code from the developer. You can check CodeDeploy and see if they're using it to link the aws services to their code repository, but in the end you're going to have to get the source from them.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 9:35 pm
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8157 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

Assuming this isn't a good sign.

Doesn't mean anything.

First, that codecommit screen is only showing you what is in the N Virginia region. It could be located on any of the regions.

Second, codecommit is just a repository. They could be using whatever repository they use internally, which may or may not be codecommit. Or they may not be using a repository at all.

The best way to find what services they are using is by looking at the bill. You can get to that by clicking your account name (to the right of the "N Virginia" in your screen shot) and then clicking billing dashboard. Go to "Bills" in the menu on the left and scroll down to "Charges by Service". Then you can look at those services individually to see what is actually going on.
Posted by painballwizard
Member since Jun 2021
22 posts
Posted on 6/15/23 at 7:08 am to
Hope that checking the contract and the bill will give more insight and some answers, it should in my opinion. Good luck with sorting this out.
Posted by benwillis57
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2018
25 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:23 am to
Gather as much information from your current developer as possible without raising suspicion. Ask for documentation, source code, or any details about the platform and framework they're using.

Next, start looking for software developers with experience in AWS since that's where your software is hosted. You can find developers on sites like Upwork or Toptal, or ask for recommendations from your business network. When interviewing, make sure they have a strong track record in LINK for business clients, and ask about their process for transitioning existing projects.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 7:26 am
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2655 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Gather as much information from your current developer as possible without raising suspicion. Ask for documentation, source code, or any details about the platform and framework they're using.

You’re giving this advice nearly a year later??
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