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re: What IPTV is everyone using?

Posted on 8/23/24 at 11:02 am to
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/23/24 at 11:02 am to
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I have everything needed to do this! Patience will be the problem because set up seems like a lot.

i took the plunge

i will say if you are using plex, then DO NOT BE AFRAID TO GO BACK TO THE START MULTIPLE TIMES.

it breaks down to a few simple steps:

- donate $10 to IPT and the IPTV option turns on for you. cancel at any time; each $10 is good for a month and gets you IPTV with 2 tuners.

- good lord..the channels. the channels. this is trial and error. the first time i grabbed the local abc, nbc, cbs and fox only nbc worked. you can search keywords like 'nashville' which will show you there are probably 5-6 redundant channels for each.

grab them all. throw them into the plex tuner (more later). test each one and see which streams the best and note that in a spreadsheet or something. in fact, you're probably going to have to do this for every channel you want.

- START SMALL! dont get greedy and grab 200 channels and find 50% don't work. just take your time, grab channels you REALLY WANT and test them to make sure the stream is solid and if not, grab the alternate channels and test them all.

- threadfin is pretty easy. run the compiled github code for your platform. i'm on Windows 10 and running it on the same server Plex is on. use the guide on IPT to 'get started' but you're going to end up having to tweak it.

- your TV plex client is the weak link (along with your connection). if it all possible, test multiple clients (samsung plex app, roku plex app, fire tv plex app, etc) while hard-wired so you can rule out wifi hiccups vs streaming hiccups and whether it runs better on Client A vs Client B. this will keep you from going crazy and you want the best client & connection if you're watching LSU with friends so get that straight ahead of time.

- DO NOT go crazy in threadfin tweaking each channel, importing station logos, etc. you will blow this out again and again and again. you can do that once the dust settles, but its stupid while you're getting your channel guide set up. your initial goal is getting ROBUST CHANNELS THAT DONT BUFFER so focus on that in the beginning. once you are confident in your channels, you can mess with the other stuff. Again, you don't want your friends to laugh in your face because you grabbed a shitty ESPN stream and it freezes 5 minutes into the football game. GET THIS ON LOCK BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE

- add your threadfin server as a virtual DVR in plex. this will also bring in the channel list you've set up. go into plex and try to tune the channels.

thats it. unfortunately you can't update your channel list in threadfin and see it in plex so you have to 'delete' the dvr each time you want to pull in an updated list of channels. a minor problem. it takes all of 1 minute to regenerate the guide in plex.

- backups are key; i'm still sorting through that but in threadfin you can set up to 3 'alternate' streams as backups and supposedly this will prevent any hiccups as the backups take over immediately anytime buffering might occur.

DID I MENTION START SMALL? You may give up on the whole thing if you think all you have to do is select your favorite 200 channels and you go to show off how smart you are to your 9 year old boy and half of them refuse to play. You're not trying to recreate Xfinity or DirectTV; in the beginning just work on a small, core set of channels that work really really REALLY well and once you have some confidence under your belt as to what you did to make those work, slowly add all the other crap you probably will never watch anyway.

what do you expect for $10? anyway, still alot to learn and i'm not ready to post any type of guide yet because i'm probaby doing it all wrong.


ETA it was pretty sweet seeing those PPV channels just show up and watch random shite on them.

ETA2 my wife said 'oh you're just doing this so you can get the Playboy channel' I'm like 'WHAT YEAR IS IT??' i told her 'yep, but its scrambled so we'll have to squint and use our imagination when watching it.'


This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 11:14 am
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/23/24 at 5:20 pm to
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CAD703X


Man that seems like a lot of work to watch TV.

I turn mine on, go to favorites and watch what I want. Every now and then I’ll search for a movie or series.


To each their own I guess
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 8/23/24 at 7:06 pm to
its more of a hobby

sure setup is tricky at first, but once you get it going, its pretty problem free.

i'm not about to pay $150/mo to comcast for 137 channels i will never watch.

eta and its all in my control; i can watch tv on any tv or device anywhere on the planet and still pick up LSU football games; no shite no worries.

i control the server.
This post was edited on 8/23/24 at 7:15 pm
Posted by H2A2
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Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:11 am to
Tivimate has been the best thing I've ever had, friends don't believe me when I tell them how easy the set up is and the amount channels I get
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 7:18 pm to
I've been using the same IPTV for 5+ years now. Incredible.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
86557 posts
Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:54 pm to
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Tivimate has been the best thing I've ever had,
you buy an android streaming stick for every TV you want to run it on?

The extra steps to get this going on Plex means I get nearly unlimited storage for the DVR and confidence no matter what tv I'm on I can enjoy IPTV without buying extra apps or jumping through a bunch of hassles to side load an IPTV app
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 9:55 pm
Posted by busbeepbeep
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Member since Jan 2004
19125 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 10:21 am to
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you buy an android streaming stick for every TV you want to run it on?

either a TV with native Google TV OS or a $20 Walmart ONN 4K Box.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25309 posts
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:35 pm to
I grabbed the 50 dollar onn box on the advice of my provider and it’s pretty damn good, especially for 50 bucks.
Posted by H2A2
South
Member since Jun 2023
162 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 5:51 am to
My provider recommended the $20 ONN box. Got 3 ...Back Porch, Living room and Daughter's room. Took me a maximum of 10 minutes to set each up. I have added Bee TV or Hdo Box to all.
Posted by CAD703X
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86557 posts
Posted on 8/28/24 at 9:36 am to
No problems only using wifi or did you add an Ethernet adapter to that stick?

How do you manage recordings?
This post was edited on 8/28/24 at 9:37 am
Posted by H2A2
South
Member since Jun 2023
162 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 10:35 am to
I only use Wifi. I do not record just try and pull it up on Bee or HDO if I miss a episode of something. I prolly could record a hour or two and be okay but messed up my last fire stick by recording 3 hours and stick ran out of room and deleted Tivimate and VPN, huge headache I don't want to deal with again.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1410 posts
Posted on 8/30/24 at 11:56 am to
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I've been using the same IPTV for 5+ years now. Incredible.


I just hit 4 years this year with my current provider. It's amazing and can't even tell you the last time it buffered. What I pay for in a year is less than what people pay for DirecTV in one month.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:23 am to
What service are you using?

All my main channels went out Saturday morning and I was pissed. Timing was sus.

Luckily I had 4 or 5 backups for them so I switched to that one. More on my setup later; pros and cons.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
1716 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:56 am to
My main service is a low profile one I was referred to. It is rock solid and the guy is very responsive to any problems or questions, He runs it through Telegram and doesn't even take on new customers except about once a year if he loses any subscribers. That's why the service is so great, he isn't greedy and doesn't overload his servers.

I usually keep a backup just in case and I like to experiment, so I have tried some of the providers with a website available and these seem pretty good. If someone can't get in with one of the more private services or just need a short-term sub, I would recommend these as a place to start and trial.

Lemotv.com Solid and no problems

digitalizard.com Once again solid and no problems

miptv4k.net Solid service, has some 4k but not much that I would watch(mostly foreign) has a few holes in the EPG

iptvfarm.net Very solid service but the EPG is terrible, if you know what you want to watch or willing to set up another EPG provider they are good.

www.firetv.pro Solid service with probably the most complete EPG I have seen. They usually have a waitlist and have invites to their discord on their Reddit group www.reddit.com/r/FireTVPro/







Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:13 am to
i'm using the IP torrent native IPTV setup; 2 tuners/$10/mo

willing to put up with a certain amount of muss & fuss but may jump ship if i can't stabilize it at some point. i don't need channels going down every time the site gets busy.

also the encoding isn't very efficient (that's putting it mildly) and while the hard-wired TV does fine, the TV across the house on WiFi buffers constantly. that same tv can handle 4K x265 encoded streams just fine, so there's no reason it should be choking on a 1080/720p stream.

i'm glad i have the hard-wired tv to compare so i'm not blaming the service itself. plan to pull wire to the other one when it stops being SO DAMN HOT OUTSIDE.

now that i have figured out the plex integration; all I need is the M3U and XMLTV URLs for whatever service i use and should be able to simply swap it out so i'm not married to any particular IPTV service.

happy to pay a little more for one that is reliable.

Plex matches the channels and pulls in the program guide but only because I have plexpass.
This post was edited on 9/3/24 at 11:15 am
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
1716 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 11:30 am to
I messed around with xsteve to try IPTV in Plex but I just didn't like it. Just like some people like to use Plex Debrid to stream from Real-Debrid etc. and I don't like that either,

I just prefer to keep IPTV in Tivimate, local content in Plex and streaming in Stremio, Syncler or Kodi with addons.

Although I see the value at having a unified solution, keeping them separate allows the best tool for each job. I think one of the benefits to you is you like the challenge and wouldn't enjoy it so much if it was simple.
Posted by CAD703X
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Member since Jul 2008
86557 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:53 pm to
xSteVe is dead; threadfin is the latest code fork and is fairly well supported (for now...)

its really not much work;

a. select channel list in IPT and generate an m3u & xmltv file
b. import m3u & xmltv into threadfin and clean up any problems
c. import xmltv into plex as a 'virtual dvr' source and plex builds the program guide.

the only sucky part is having to 'fix' some of the metadata for channels so plex recognizes them properly and generates correct program guides.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
1716 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 7:17 pm to
It has been a long time so maybe I'll check out Threadfin and give it another go. I think before I was just trying to include too many channels. If I try again, I'll just add my core favorites.
Posted by CAD703X
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86557 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:35 pm to
Yep. Start small. Honestly outside of sports I'm not too interested. Maybe a couple of the food and home and garden channels for the wife
Posted by zeto
BR
Member since Oct 2006
1239 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:02 am to
What would be the most rock solid IPTV service if all I care about is high bitrate sports with no buffering?
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