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Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:33 am to 225Tyga
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That’s an old picture. White and Jamal Adams are in the NFL now.
Yes and the point is? I said look at White next to him.
This was about DBU and really how it started with him and other great LSU DBs hence “Godfather of DBU”. The grandfather would be Jerry Stovall. That guy was GREAT!
Posted on 12/26/22 at 9:38 am to BasilBogomil
100 yard is shorter than 100 meters. It was sub 10 second. It would have out him at around a 10.6 to 10.8 100 meter.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:19 am to MidCityTiger
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I still remember the hit he put on Johnny Musso. I bet Johnny does, too.
Bear Bryant and his book, Career in Crisis....
"Musso took the ball 18 more yards before Tommy Casanova knocked him out of bounds at the 17 YARD LINE. It was a vicious lick that temporarily knocked out the star tailback.
He tried to get up, but fell back down to the ground. Musso finally got up, but would play only one more offensive series before being sent to the locker room for the remainder of the half"
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:22 am to TigerGM
You’re getting confused with 100 meters
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:29 am to Penrod
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I would have said “grandfather”. I was expecting Patrick Peterson.
That would be Jerry Stovall who was a better overall football player than every db lsu has ever had IMO. He was flat out robbed of the Heisman. As great as Tommy was, Jerry Stovall had a much better single season in my opinion. Everyone knew he was getting the ball and when he was on offense and there was nothing people could do to stop him. Coach Mac ruined his career much like last year for many other LSU running backs. Nothing but respect for Jerry Stovall. He was THE man.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:30 am to Tiger1988
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Jerry Stovall
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He was flat out robbed of the Heisman
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:35 am to BasilBogomil
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BasilBogomil
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Sub 11 sounds more plausible
Sub 10 second hundred-yard dash for sure. The metric system was not in play during that time. Not 100 M run
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:36 am to LCTFAN
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Sub 10 second hundred-yard dash for sure
was not too uncommon back then
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:50 am to 777Tiger
Cannon ran a 10.6 at his size. Pretty damn impressive considering how strong he was. I believe he held the state record for the shot put…
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:10 am to Juan Betanzos
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Exactly! Could you imagine Jim Brown with todays nutrition, weight training programs and recovery equipment, supplements??
Man, OJ would be killing it too, even though the gloves probably wouldn’t fit.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:10 am to Tiger1988
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This was about DBU and really how it started with him and other great LSU DBs hence “Godfather of DBU”.
This is your thesis, but you provide nothing to support it. Yes, Casanova is an all-time great, but a player from the late 60s to early 70s has no bearing on why so many great DB prospects choose the Tigers today.
You’d have a better argument that the Soul Patrol from the late 70s were the seedlings, but even that is incorrect.
What made LSU a destination for DBs was Patrick Peterson and the Honey Badger. That’s what brought about sustained interest in LSU from DBs, not players that current 18 year olds have never heard of.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:11 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:13 am to The First Cut
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the Soul Patrol from the late 70s
there used to be some sort of "invitational" student track and field meet each spring at LSU when I was going there, open to any groups or individuals, the Soul Patrol entered as "The Ethiopian Relay Team," in the 440(think it was still yards,) relay, absolutely smoked the field and set some sort of, unofficial of course, world record one year
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 11:23 am
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:54 am to LSUtoBOOT
quote:THIS. Juice was a monster.
Man, OJ would be killing it too, even though the gloves probably wouldn’t fit.
Think about people like Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson. Dickerson was so big, fast and strong. I used to love watching him run.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:16 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Yeah that 9.5 in the 100 yards = about a 10.5 100 meters...that's flying!
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:47 pm to The First Cut
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What made LSU a destination for DBs was Patrick Peterson and the Honey Badger. That’s what brought about sustained interest in LSU from DBs, not players that current 18 year olds have never heard of
Unless you start with the many GREAT DBs that came before them. I didn’t say the label/term I didn’t say “DBU” started with Casanova”. I said he was the “Godfather” of DBU. As you pointed out the soul patrol was great but I’d argue Jerry Stovall was the best DB as a FOOTBALL player to ever don a LSU uniform. He is the Grandfather of “DBU”.
To put this in context, Ty Mathieu is my favorite Tiger player of all time. Not Dtovall, Casanova or Cannon who I saw all play albeit Cannon only in the pros.
Reading is important. Don’t assume.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:10 pm to Tiger1988
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As you pointed out the soul patrol was great but I’d argue Jerry Stovall was the best DB as a FOOTBALL player to ever don a LSU uniform.
Finished second in the Heisman, should have won it.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:24 pm to Tiger1988
Reading is very important, maybe you should read something to understand what D.B.U. means. LSU is D.B.U. because of the string of impressive DBs that passed through the program.
I understand you’re a man of limited intellect so I’ll help you with this. Your statement that Cassanova is the Godfather of DBU implies that he’s the one that started it all.
This is a thesis.
When you make a thesis you support it with evidence. Again to help you given your limitations, solid evidence would be lineage of DBs that followed him in his tradition.
I’ll make a thesis and support it for you so you’ll understand.
Patrick Peterson is the Godfather (or granddad, father, paw paw, baby daddy, whatever paternal metaphor you wish to choose) of DBU.
As evidence of that I will say that the Honey Badger changed his jersey number from 14 to 7 to honor his mentor PP7. This started a couple of recent LSU traditions - #7 and D.B.U. The #7 lives on as a symbolic honor to a playmaker. DBU lives on in the string of players that have followed, including:
Patrick Peterson (2011 5th overall, 138 starts, 3x All-Pro)
Tyrann Mathieu (2013 third round, 89 starts, 2x All-Pro)
Jamal Adams (2017 6th overall, 46 starts, All-Pro)
Tre'Davious White (2017 first round, 47 starts, All-Pro)
Morris Claiborne (2012 6th overall, 74 starts)
Eric Reid (2013 first round, 98 starts)
Donte Jackson (2018 second round, 26 starts)
Jalen Collins (2015 second round, 8 starts)
Jalen Mills (2016 seventh round, 34 starts)
Greedy Williams (2019 second round, 12 starts)
Delvin Breaux (2012 undrafted, 22 starts)
Ron Brooks (2012 fourth round, 8 starts)
Rashard Robinson (2016 fourth round, 15 starts)
Brandon Taylor (2012 third round, 1 start)
Chad Jones (2010 third round)
But continues on with players like Stingley, Flott, Stevens, Delpit, Fulton, etc.)
Where’s your support for your thesis? Your thesis is similar to saying LSU is QBU because of Doc Fenton.
I understand you’re a man of limited intellect so I’ll help you with this. Your statement that Cassanova is the Godfather of DBU implies that he’s the one that started it all.
This is a thesis.
When you make a thesis you support it with evidence. Again to help you given your limitations, solid evidence would be lineage of DBs that followed him in his tradition.
I’ll make a thesis and support it for you so you’ll understand.
Patrick Peterson is the Godfather (or granddad, father, paw paw, baby daddy, whatever paternal metaphor you wish to choose) of DBU.
As evidence of that I will say that the Honey Badger changed his jersey number from 14 to 7 to honor his mentor PP7. This started a couple of recent LSU traditions - #7 and D.B.U. The #7 lives on as a symbolic honor to a playmaker. DBU lives on in the string of players that have followed, including:
Patrick Peterson (2011 5th overall, 138 starts, 3x All-Pro)
Tyrann Mathieu (2013 third round, 89 starts, 2x All-Pro)
Jamal Adams (2017 6th overall, 46 starts, All-Pro)
Tre'Davious White (2017 first round, 47 starts, All-Pro)
Morris Claiborne (2012 6th overall, 74 starts)
Eric Reid (2013 first round, 98 starts)
Donte Jackson (2018 second round, 26 starts)
Jalen Collins (2015 second round, 8 starts)
Jalen Mills (2016 seventh round, 34 starts)
Greedy Williams (2019 second round, 12 starts)
Delvin Breaux (2012 undrafted, 22 starts)
Ron Brooks (2012 fourth round, 8 starts)
Rashard Robinson (2016 fourth round, 15 starts)
Brandon Taylor (2012 third round, 1 start)
Chad Jones (2010 third round)
But continues on with players like Stingley, Flott, Stevens, Delpit, Fulton, etc.)
Where’s your support for your thesis? Your thesis is similar to saying LSU is QBU because of Doc Fenton.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:28 pm to The First Cut
You seem very fond of the word “thesis”.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:34 pm to BBATiger
It’s only to point out that’s there’s a claim with no support. If you prefer claim, substitute that word there.
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