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re: Planted summer plots today
Posted on 7/25/23 at 9:04 pm to The Levee
Posted on 7/25/23 at 9:04 pm to The Levee
Levee, just listened to this podcast and I’m really glad to know MSU is doing this experiment. Thanks!
I’ve got my 5-yr experiment going, and my 2nd warm season crop is smothered by weeds, sad sight. I’ve been debating with myself about whether or not to use herbicide in the fall just about decided “yes”, and this podcast confirms it to me.
Most of what they said sounds familiar, I’m really glad to hear a scientific study will attempt to quantify some of the regen benefits.
They mentioned weather being a big factor, and I have had one yr too dry and one too wet, so I’m ready for just right moisture next year, maybe. Weather has been a big obstacle for me. Neighbor’s cows too. But it’s a long game. I think it’s encouraging just to know MSU has given regen credibility.
I’ve got my 5-yr experiment going, and my 2nd warm season crop is smothered by weeds, sad sight. I’ve been debating with myself about whether or not to use herbicide in the fall just about decided “yes”, and this podcast confirms it to me.
Most of what they said sounds familiar, I’m really glad to hear a scientific study will attempt to quantify some of the regen benefits.
They mentioned weather being a big factor, and I have had one yr too dry and one too wet, so I’m ready for just right moisture next year, maybe. Weather has been a big obstacle for me. Neighbor’s cows too. But it’s a long game. I think it’s encouraging just to know MSU has given regen credibility.
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 6:54 am to 76Forest
Weather, timing, and browse pressure seem to be major hurdles for us trying throw and mow no-till methods. I really don’t se us ever doing away with herbicide.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:36 am to 76Forest
If you listen to some of the older MSU podcast, or some of Drop Tine Seed podcast, Jason Snavely has been a big reason why they have considered regenerative foodploting. If you have never listened to Drop Tine, I highly recommend his stuff. Years ago, I listened to one where he talked about frost seeding clover, chickory, and possibly alfalfa. My Dad and I tried it as he mentioned, and all I can say is Wow! I plots exploded in the spring green up.
I was telling Levee yesterday about my plan for food plots this year. Almost all of my plots this year are going to be on never tilled or worked soil. They are areas that I have freshly brush cut this year. They have been wooded for at least the last 40-50 years, but probably the last hundred plus years.
One of the spots I burned in march, then came back and brush cut it down in April. It's about 1.5 acres. I am going to rebrush cut it in August, then burn the debris the following day. Then come back 1 month later and drill it with seed. No herbicide on this plot because the August burn should kill most all of the woody structure.
On the next spot, I brush cut in late May, and burned it the next day. It has grown back with Hairy Cluster vine, but there are quite a few forbs growing beneath the hairy cluster vine. I haven't decided if I am going to cut and burn, or spray and drill into the top. That will probably be an August decision. The late May burn seems to have killed most of the woody structure that was in this 1.5 acre plot area.
The third spot will only be a spot blot that is drilled into an area that was burnt 2 weeks ago. It will be a game time decision to see what the results are like from the July burn. This plot will be 10 ft strips mixed into old field habitat.
The 4th spot is a 4 acre old field habitat area. I will make about 1 acre a food plot, and then I plan to strip plant a few 10 ft strips in the middle of the old field area. I plan to burn the 1 acre area and the wooded hillside that is next to it. For the strips, I am going to have to spray in August, then cut early September and drill in late September. I have 1 other spot that is about 2 acres that I plan to plant about a 1/2 acre into the middle of it.
I do not plan to fertilize anything because this is all rich healthy soil that hasn't been disturbed for years. The Microbs in the soil are rich and healthy. I don't want to damage that, but I want to work with it.
I was telling Levee yesterday about my plan for food plots this year. Almost all of my plots this year are going to be on never tilled or worked soil. They are areas that I have freshly brush cut this year. They have been wooded for at least the last 40-50 years, but probably the last hundred plus years.
One of the spots I burned in march, then came back and brush cut it down in April. It's about 1.5 acres. I am going to rebrush cut it in August, then burn the debris the following day. Then come back 1 month later and drill it with seed. No herbicide on this plot because the August burn should kill most all of the woody structure.
On the next spot, I brush cut in late May, and burned it the next day. It has grown back with Hairy Cluster vine, but there are quite a few forbs growing beneath the hairy cluster vine. I haven't decided if I am going to cut and burn, or spray and drill into the top. That will probably be an August decision. The late May burn seems to have killed most of the woody structure that was in this 1.5 acre plot area.
The third spot will only be a spot blot that is drilled into an area that was burnt 2 weeks ago. It will be a game time decision to see what the results are like from the July burn. This plot will be 10 ft strips mixed into old field habitat.
The 4th spot is a 4 acre old field habitat area. I will make about 1 acre a food plot, and then I plan to strip plant a few 10 ft strips in the middle of the old field area. I plan to burn the 1 acre area and the wooded hillside that is next to it. For the strips, I am going to have to spray in August, then cut early September and drill in late September. I have 1 other spot that is about 2 acres that I plan to plant about a 1/2 acre into the middle of it.
I do not plan to fertilize anything because this is all rich healthy soil that hasn't been disturbed for years. The Microbs in the soil are rich and healthy. I don't want to damage that, but I want to work with it.
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