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Sold motor home after 12 years, costs explained
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:18 pm
In 2010 wife and I bought a 31 foot class A motor home , wore it out 67000 miles and a thousand night slept in. Went to Alaska, 15000 mile round trip, and 6 other trips to Montana, Idaho, Oregon, Utah, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico. Buying a mh at age 60 is the right thing
some economics purchase cost 95,000,,,downpayment 12000, monthly note for 10years 700, mortgage buyout 30000, proceeds at sale 16000,,,,, for a total capital outlay of about 110000.
major expenses. 67000 miles at 6 mpg times 3 bucks a gallon is 33000. Two sets of tires at 3000 per set, Captains seats and couch replacement 1500. Three sets of batteries for 900 bucks. Covered storage at 200 bucks month about 6000. Roads taxes 200 a year for 12 years 2400. Stair replacement 3 times for about 3000. Leveler hydraulic hose replacement twice for a total 4500. Broken windshield for 2200.
minor expenses......oil change, door lock repair, toilet replacement, awning replacement, generator fuel pumps, batter charger replacement. Stuff you need too do yourself
Obersevations.... we used our motor home much more than the typical retiree and enjoyed it. I spent a lot of time repairing and troubleshooting problems. The motor home is assembled cheap with 4-5 different parties that may be involved in fits. Do not expect the dealership to do more than the minimum regards warranty. Do not expect Ford[chassis supplier ]dealerships to agree to repair anything. All rv cabin components [stove, refrigerator etc] are product supported by the component vendor. Vehicle repair shops consider Rv's odd and avoid work. RV repair shops are maybe 1 in 5 ethical with 150 dollars an hour billing for a dude that can't read.
obersevations.....When buying look for a one to two year old mh. You will avoid the new vehicle depreciation and more import someone else will have corrected the long list of repair issues. Have you heard of a ship's shakedown cruise, a rv needs the same experience.
observations.....When selling through a consignment company, be sure to understand all of the costs in addition to the commission. Consignment company initial appraisal for my rv was 35000 and my net check was 16000. Danger is in the several stages of vehicle inspection and fix for sale. Shop costs was 7000 and commission was 2500. They get you by the short hair.
We very much like the rv life style and are investigating rental for next summer. If you can swap fuses and hold on to your wallet its a great way to see the outdoors.
The 2010 mh priced at 95000 is currently listed at 190000 s
some economics purchase cost 95,000,,,downpayment 12000, monthly note for 10years 700, mortgage buyout 30000, proceeds at sale 16000,,,,, for a total capital outlay of about 110000.
major expenses. 67000 miles at 6 mpg times 3 bucks a gallon is 33000. Two sets of tires at 3000 per set, Captains seats and couch replacement 1500. Three sets of batteries for 900 bucks. Covered storage at 200 bucks month about 6000. Roads taxes 200 a year for 12 years 2400. Stair replacement 3 times for about 3000. Leveler hydraulic hose replacement twice for a total 4500. Broken windshield for 2200.
minor expenses......oil change, door lock repair, toilet replacement, awning replacement, generator fuel pumps, batter charger replacement. Stuff you need too do yourself
Obersevations.... we used our motor home much more than the typical retiree and enjoyed it. I spent a lot of time repairing and troubleshooting problems. The motor home is assembled cheap with 4-5 different parties that may be involved in fits. Do not expect the dealership to do more than the minimum regards warranty. Do not expect Ford[chassis supplier ]dealerships to agree to repair anything. All rv cabin components [stove, refrigerator etc] are product supported by the component vendor. Vehicle repair shops consider Rv's odd and avoid work. RV repair shops are maybe 1 in 5 ethical with 150 dollars an hour billing for a dude that can't read.
obersevations.....When buying look for a one to two year old mh. You will avoid the new vehicle depreciation and more import someone else will have corrected the long list of repair issues. Have you heard of a ship's shakedown cruise, a rv needs the same experience.
observations.....When selling through a consignment company, be sure to understand all of the costs in addition to the commission. Consignment company initial appraisal for my rv was 35000 and my net check was 16000. Danger is in the several stages of vehicle inspection and fix for sale. Shop costs was 7000 and commission was 2500. They get you by the short hair.
We very much like the rv life style and are investigating rental for next summer. If you can swap fuses and hold on to your wallet its a great way to see the outdoors.
The 2010 mh priced at 95000 is currently listed at 190000 s
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:20 pm to Trevaylin
Are you driving while typing this?
Is that the reason for the strange structure?
Is that the reason for the strange structure?
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:21 pm to Eli Goldfinger
do you still have your finger where the sun don't shine
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:44 pm to Trevaylin
$130 to $195 is the ballpark per hour rate to work on a diesel vehicle.
I hated working on RV's and refused road calls on them.
I had Ford and a few other mfg's over the years ask me to do repairs.
No way!!!!
It is over the road stuff it too easy to get grease on the interior.
Take too long to get paid by the vendor.
RV customers, expect you to push working on their vehicles infront of your steady commercial customer business.
I hated working on RV's and refused road calls on them.
I had Ford and a few other mfg's over the years ask me to do repairs.
No way!!!!
It is over the road stuff it too easy to get grease on the interior.
Take too long to get paid by the vendor.
RV customers, expect you to push working on their vehicles infront of your steady commercial customer business.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:45 pm to Trevaylin
The thing about money is you can’t take it with you. If you enjoyed the time, you can’t put a price on exploration and living out your dreams and adventures. You probably worked hard all your life to be able to go on those trips and experience those places. I hope to be you one day.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 9:50 pm to Trevaylin
I was hoping you would say how much it cost you for every day you used it.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 11:09 pm to tenfoe
According to his post, total costs were around $170k.
$170k/1000 days = $170/night
That’s with 67k miles, so presumably 150-180 days of 8-hour drives.
Over twelve years, that is a lot. Roughly 2.75 of those 12 years living out of the camper (averaged).
I would think many are lucky to get 30 days/year out of an RV (besides a hunting camp), so, best case with cash purchase of $95k and selling it for the full $30k, and $15k in gasoline, that’s $222/night.
Now do the current price of $195k and the above, assuming you can sell it for $60k in 12 years. That’s $415/night!
$170k/1000 days = $170/night
That’s with 67k miles, so presumably 150-180 days of 8-hour drives.
Over twelve years, that is a lot. Roughly 2.75 of those 12 years living out of the camper (averaged).
I would think many are lucky to get 30 days/year out of an RV (besides a hunting camp), so, best case with cash purchase of $95k and selling it for the full $30k, and $15k in gasoline, that’s $222/night.
Now do the current price of $195k and the above, assuming you can sell it for $60k in 12 years. That’s $415/night!
Posted on 8/25/23 at 4:37 am to Trevaylin
My parents had RVs when I was a kid. We had a 30' Southwind and a 32' Bounder. Was the best way to travel. Playing Nintendo in the back bedroom while driving.
I would never consider new though.
Nothing depreciates like a motor home.
I would never consider new though.
Nothing depreciates like a motor home.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:02 am to Trevaylin
I'd say you got your money's worth out of that RV.
I can't wrap my head around how people can justify spending even $50,000 on an RV to be used 10 times a year tailgating at the local Yogi Bear campground.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:05 am to Trevaylin
quote:
do you still have your finger where the sun don't shine
holy shite. I just coughed up my drink
This is all time response
A guy your age saying this is hilarious
Posted on 8/25/23 at 6:39 am to Trevaylin
There’s a lot of good information in there, but difficult to read. Commas are free.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:01 am to tenfoe
I did overlook campground costs!!! Free for a few nights in a Walmart parking lot, free above the arctic circle in Alaska, 8$ a night in state and national forests, 20$ dollars a night in small town parks, 30$ a night in rural RV parks, 45$ a night in large full service rv parks, 75-125$ a night for resort rv parks associated with being close to heavily trafficked national parks, like Yellowstone. Average for a trip west of the Mississippi was probably 25 $ a night. A catalog of western campgrounds was more important than gps for trip planning
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:13 am to johnnyrocket
I fully understand your repairman view. it's valid. It is what it is and the rv owner has to deal with it.
We spent a week at a campground in Junction Texas. Adjacent site occupied by a 28 foot trailer that had burned its brakes. Repair service made 4 visits over the several days, scoping job, wrong parts, lack of understanding of electric brakes etc.
My input was to disconnect the brakes and tow it a hundred miles to San Antonio to a competent shop
We spent a week at a campground in Junction Texas. Adjacent site occupied by a 28 foot trailer that had burned its brakes. Repair service made 4 visits over the several days, scoping job, wrong parts, lack of understanding of electric brakes etc.
My input was to disconnect the brakes and tow it a hundred miles to San Antonio to a competent shop
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:22 am to Trevaylin
We camped for about 12 years. One hybrid and two 5th wheels. I never wanted another engine in the equation, so I never considered any form of motorhome. Buying used, I did pretty well reselling, even the one that delaminated
I could see jumping back in after retirement, but if so, it will probably be another 5ver. I miss those Octobers when we left the camper at Indian Creek the whole month.
I could see jumping back in after retirement, but if so, it will probably be another 5ver. I miss those Octobers when we left the camper at Indian Creek the whole month.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 7:26 am to Trevaylin
Great info OP. You’d get incredible praise if you could put that into a spreadsheet organized just a tad better.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 9:12 am to AlxTgr
delamination is a real issue after about 5 years. It's the shitty motor home manufacture process that builds up the fibre glass skin over luan cheap plywood to make the external walls. Plywood falls apart or sun exposure differential expansion, both can happen. I never could find an effective fix once it got started.
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