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re: Real estate groups urged the Fed to stop rate hikes.

Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:54 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79177 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:54 pm to
Cash buyer? Because who wants to finance at the top of the market at 8%? Sounds reckless unless you are all cash.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24150 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 8:57 pm to
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People have to have places to live, whether they own or rent. Build for rent is huge now. Investors buy up property and hire residential construction business to develop, and build. And then they rent them out. Obviously, this a huge deal for residential construction, because a lot of people won’t qualify for what home, or townhome costs these days, so they rent.


You will own nothing…and love it.
Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10805 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:00 pm to
Because historically these aren’t bad percentages to buy at. Housing shortage dictates pricing. It’s supply and demand. Economics 1. Everyone got used to the lowest percentages in history. Guess what’s not going to happen? The price of homes going down. Because the demand is higher than the supply. Interest rates will go up, and really it’s time to buy and get locked in, you can always refinance later if they go down. Stout has been preaching doom and gloom for this industry for years on here. I just don’t see it as reality for now with the BFR stuff being huge. But that’s just me, I could be wrong, but I hope not because I’d probably have to find another job again like I did in 2008 crash.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74678 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:05 pm to
NARS lawsuit is interesting

No more Buyer agent commish on the line

Posted by ugasickem
Allatoona
Member since Nov 2010
10805 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:07 pm to
That’s the goal, I’m afraid. But my paycheck depends on those getting built. I just paid my property taxes today. Highest they’ve been. I guess own nothing and like it is better than freezing under an overpass. Company I’m with has had 3 consecutive years of their best years ever. Like I said, people need a place to live. And there isn’t enough housing.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12796 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:12 pm to
Largest lobbyist group in the US wants favors. Shocking.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11473 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:12 pm to
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Just wait until those Airbnb’s start hitting the market

This! Whole lot of investment properties out there with no buyers. The indicator I would follow is if Blackrock is still buying.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40053 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:22 pm to
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Real state is the single most advantaged industry by the federal tax code - and it's not even close. It's utterly preposterous that they're asking for more.

And because it is advantaged that created more profit. The higher profits attracted more competition, and the profits went back down.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40053 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:23 pm to
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Won't you all just think of the middle-aged women with no other skills!

Oh, many have other skills.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99528 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:25 pm to
This doesn't seem to jibe with the news from Krugman the other day that Biden has beaten inflation.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3657 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:36 pm to
Let’s be honest, we’re all fricked anyway. Rates stay outrageous and people won’t be able to afford houses. Rates drop a bit and so many people jump into a low inventory market that the price increases will make your eyes cross. We’re fricked.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4655 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:37 pm to
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You will own nothing…and love it.


Do you really own it if you have to pay a bank every month for 30 years or they take it from you?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167705 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:38 pm to
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Do you really own it if you have to pay a bank every month for 30 years or they take it from you?



That's not the worst part. You have to pay property taxes forever or the state will take it from you
Posted by BayouNation
Member since Sep 2008
2014 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:39 pm to
FJB!
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
485 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:50 pm to
frick em all!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64441 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:50 pm to
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I could be wrong, but I hope not because I’d probably have to find another job again like I did in 2008 crash.


Start looking. Get out while you can.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
49023 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:52 pm to
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You have to pay property taxes forever or the state will take it from you

Yep. frick property taxes. I'd rather have an income tax if that's the alternative.

Ultimately, I'd rather just have it all in a sales tax though. Let everyone pay it if we all must.
This post was edited on 10/13/23 at 9:53 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63756 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 9:59 pm to
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Interest rates will go up, and really it’s time to buy and get locked in, you can always refinance later if they go down.


If it were just about interest rates then yeah. But the added component of inventory being low has overinflated the price of homes. So while buyers can refinance that interest rate, they can't refinance that over inflated purchase price.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12796 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:18 pm to
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Ultimately, I'd rather just have it all in a sales tax though. Let everyone pay it if we all must.

I like the idea but unfortunately in reality that fricks people way harder without massive spending cuts. Which we know isn’t going to happen with our spend happy politicians.
Posted by stormyhog
Arkansas
Member since Oct 2009
443 posts
Posted on 10/13/23 at 10:21 pm to
It’s slowed down probably about 20% here but still humming surprisingly.
2019-2022 was insane.
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