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re: Are you better off than your parents? Is your kids likely to be better off than you?
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:59 am to fareplay
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:59 am to fareplay
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Are you better off than your parents?
I am probably better off than my parents were at my age but I am by no means better off than they are currently and I have my doubts that I will ever get to their status.
Let me add that I am in the same line of work as my father and my wife probably makes as much if not more than my mother so the comparisons is pretty easy to draw and will be a decent case study.
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They were telling me that they are concerned their kids won’t be as successful and will have a lifestyle drop after college.
Everyone who comes from a decently well off family should have a lifestyle drop right after college. The idea that someone should be able to afford the same lifestyle that their parents currently live after working for a few decades is dumb.
BUT I think their worry long term is correct. I make a decent Salary and currently have less buying power than I did 5 years ago when I made a good bit less. Printing tons of money during Covid really screwed us. My hope is that salaries will catch up to the current prices but as of now, I am more or less in the same place I was several years ago despite making more money.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:59 am to fareplay
Better off is subjective. Financially, me and my peers are likely 10 times better off in spite of growing up middle class.
My parents and their peers were likely happier though. They didn't have much and it didn't bother them. Materialism has taken over since 1980 and is certainly a negative on US society.
My parents and their peers were likely happier though. They didn't have much and it didn't bother them. Materialism has taken over since 1980 and is certainly a negative on US society.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:00 pm to Epic Cajun
Macro economic factors like recession or even war
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:04 pm to bayoudude
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a wife that stayed home and cooked every meal
If my wife didn't work we wouldn't be able to pay the mortgage and we don't live in some fancy updated house in a super nice area. The idea that our generation could make ends meet with children on a single income is pretty farfetched.
Sure maybe we eat out more than we should but we don't go on fancy vacations and we don't pay for cable or any extra expenses like that.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:07 pm to fareplay
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Macro economic factors like recession or even war
Meh, if you're looking for an excuse you can/will find one.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:08 pm to Epic Cajun
Idk I almost got a degree in petro Eng in 2012
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:19 pm to fareplay
My father lived in a house with no indoor plumbing and was the first in his family to graduate high school. He raised 5 lids on a government salary. I did better than him and both my kids are better off than me. Common thread was everyone worked to improve their lives
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:20 pm to fareplay
Yes, I had outpaced my parents before I hit 30. But I am the son of an illiterate man and a high school dropout mom. They were wonderful parents and I didn't realize how poor we were until I was much older, my dad also passed away when I was 9.
3 of 4 of my kids are probably a no.
But my youngest and her future husband will outpace me within 10 years. She will be a registered dietician and already has people where she is interning gauging her interest in working there after school, her boyfriend has accepted an engineering job (chemical engineering) at the consulting firm he worked at while in college. They may outpace me before they hit 30.
I'm a boomer. My two oldest are millennials, and my two youngest are whatever 1998 & 2000 are (Gen Z?).
3 of 4 of my kids are probably a no.
But my youngest and her future husband will outpace me within 10 years. She will be a registered dietician and already has people where she is interning gauging her interest in working there after school, her boyfriend has accepted an engineering job (chemical engineering) at the consulting firm he worked at while in college. They may outpace me before they hit 30.
I'm a boomer. My two oldest are millennials, and my two youngest are whatever 1998 & 2000 are (Gen Z?).
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:41 pm to fareplay
I have more education than either of my parents (they had HS and BS and i have Master’s), but I am divorced so my lifestyle isn’t what theirs was at my age. Plus I think we pay more for things like insurance now.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:43 pm to baldona
the house my parents bought in the late 90's for 140k is now valued at over 400k on the market, almost a 3x growth, wages have not come close to increasing that much
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:45 pm to fareplay
my dad is about to retire but makes like 400k. I don't see how I'll ever get to that (in real dollars) tbh
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:45 pm to fareplay
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Are you better off than your parents?
yes for the most part, although he was very successfull
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Is your kids likely to be better off than you?
if they listen and make good decisions...then yes.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:49 pm to fareplay
Yes. My biological father abandoned us so there is no where to go but up for my kids.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 12:54 pm to fareplay
Yes, I am far better off than my father was at this point in his life. But being broke and divorced because of a severe drinking problem isn't a high bar.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:11 pm to fareplay
Yes I am better off than my parents
And my 24yo son is doing WAY better than I was at his age
And my 24yo son is doing WAY better than I was at his age
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:19 pm to fareplay
Yes (had they stayed married, it would be a closer answer).
Yes, kids will do better. They are very intelligent, are getting useful degrees (professionals) and have a great work ethic.
Yes, kids will do better. They are very intelligent, are getting useful degrees (professionals) and have a great work ethic.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:20 pm to fareplay
Yes, I am.
My folks didn't make much growing up.
My folks didn't make much growing up.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 1:35 pm to fareplay
My wife and I are far better off than either or our parents. I was the second person in my family to finish high school and the first to finish college. Most of her family finished high school but she was one of three cousins who graduated college in the same year for the first time in their family. My wife is the first to earn a masters degree.
I grew up in apartments and mobile homes in Atlanta and North Georgia. No one in my immediate family owned a home. Some of her family owned homes in Chicago but most of them lived in Florida and either lived in mobile homes or pretty primitive homes. She and I have owned a home since I was 23 and she was 21. We pay more in state income taxes than either of our parents earned in a year and make more every 3 years than either of our Dad's earned in their lifetimes. We are far better off because they saw to it that we received an education, wore our asses out when we fricked up, which we both did, and sacrificed so we could do better. Not just our parents but our grandparents and in her case aunts and uncles. It is what family is about...sacrificing for the next generation.
I am not sure our kids will do as much better than us than we did our own parents. My son is doing alright and there is a fairly narrow window where he could actually become generationally wealthy in his chosen profession but more than likely he will merely earn a good living. My daughter will be in the 9th grade next year and is an excellent student with no real work ethic (out son did not have it either but does now that he has an actual job). She is interested in music so she will probably earn a decent living at best. She is young though so who knows, she may wind up on a pole somewhere...you never know about people.
All in all I would say that the kids of Gen X parents, millennials and Gen Z kids, will probably have to learn to live on less disposable income than their parents had. I think Gen X may be the last generation of Americans who really surpassed their parents success by a large degree. First off we (gen x) do not make the sacrifices our parents made but a lot of that has to do with unintended consequences of years of idiotic tax policy based on rising tides and ships without any regards to the amount of anchor rode an individual may have. There are also unforeseen consequences of policies like air bags in cars and arc fault breakers in homes that supposedly make us safer but cost a shite ton of money in an era where wages have struggled for 40+ years to keep up with inflation.
I grew up in apartments and mobile homes in Atlanta and North Georgia. No one in my immediate family owned a home. Some of her family owned homes in Chicago but most of them lived in Florida and either lived in mobile homes or pretty primitive homes. She and I have owned a home since I was 23 and she was 21. We pay more in state income taxes than either of our parents earned in a year and make more every 3 years than either of our Dad's earned in their lifetimes. We are far better off because they saw to it that we received an education, wore our asses out when we fricked up, which we both did, and sacrificed so we could do better. Not just our parents but our grandparents and in her case aunts and uncles. It is what family is about...sacrificing for the next generation.
I am not sure our kids will do as much better than us than we did our own parents. My son is doing alright and there is a fairly narrow window where he could actually become generationally wealthy in his chosen profession but more than likely he will merely earn a good living. My daughter will be in the 9th grade next year and is an excellent student with no real work ethic (out son did not have it either but does now that he has an actual job). She is interested in music so she will probably earn a decent living at best. She is young though so who knows, she may wind up on a pole somewhere...you never know about people.
All in all I would say that the kids of Gen X parents, millennials and Gen Z kids, will probably have to learn to live on less disposable income than their parents had. I think Gen X may be the last generation of Americans who really surpassed their parents success by a large degree. First off we (gen x) do not make the sacrifices our parents made but a lot of that has to do with unintended consequences of years of idiotic tax policy based on rising tides and ships without any regards to the amount of anchor rode an individual may have. There are also unforeseen consequences of policies like air bags in cars and arc fault breakers in homes that supposedly make us safer but cost a shite ton of money in an era where wages have struggled for 40+ years to keep up with inflation.
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