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re: Louisiana requests federal assistance to help struggling crawfish farmers
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:03 am to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:03 am to mmmmmbeeer
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This is the problem with some of y'all....it's all platitudes and tough talk without any regard for nuance or historical context. Pull out the thesaurus, talk tough, and wait for the upvotes to come rolling in. Get curious! Read!
Yep a bunch of idealogue dipshits that don’t know how the real world works
Yet I see the same ones on the poli board cheering on a bunch of populist candidates
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:03 am to Boudreaux35
At the speed at which the government works, it will be next year before anyone receives any money
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:04 am to CrawDude
Sounds like the America I grew up in. Good for him.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:07 am to loogaroo
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And those farms will be farmed and crawfished by another farmer. That's a fact. Rice ground is selling for over 3k per acre with people hunting for more land. I know three guys right now that will buy anything that comes available and can buy it all
Maybe in certain spots but if rice and crawfish were that lucrative there wouldn’t be 10k + acres that haven’t been farmed in years in Acadia and Vermillion
Also solar and hunting in certain areas inflate those prices
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:10 am to CrawDude
I know their operation is closer to the tracks that cut through by La-13/190.
The cold storage with one of the three Crawfish Triumvirates is headed back out of town going towards Lawtell out of Eunice. That may be owned by the Riceland people, I’m not sure.
All I know is I’ve spent way more time talking about crawfish on TD this year than actually eating crawfish and I hope that changes soon.
The cold storage with one of the three Crawfish Triumvirates is headed back out of town going towards Lawtell out of Eunice. That may be owned by the Riceland people, I’m not sure.
All I know is I’ve spent way more time talking about crawfish on TD this year than actually eating crawfish and I hope that changes soon.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:10 am to SWLA92
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Arkansas has better yields than Louisiana. They have better land. That’s the only way I can think they “make it
Like a 3ba/ac avg better on first crop
They make it because they can grow 60+ bushel beans and 200 bushel corn in spots and they know how to work the insurance and pp game
Plus a lot of them get 100k + on hunting leases
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:14 am to SWLA92
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Calling it a loss this year will end the crawfish industry as you know it. You think prices are bad now? They’ll be a fraction of crawfish producers survive if this season continues like it is. Less producers means less supply, and the demand is only going to get higher which means prices will stay higher than what we are used to. Be careful what you ask for
Oh well
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:15 am to SWLA92
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I’ve always said if crawfish are too high to buy don’t buy them, wait for the prices to come down. The thing y’all don’t seem to understand is, if producers don’t survive this season they won’t be another season for some of them. Then they’ll be less crawfish on the market next season.
You're telling me that the big farmers with money to cover a loss on the year won't buy up farms that weren't profitable this season and can't afford it?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:15 am to CrawDude
Thought this has been mentioned before when folks talked about who controlled pricing. The other two mentioned were Troy Landry and the Bernard guy
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:15 am to loogaroo
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The rice base acreage subsidy payments are big business now
There hasn’t been a rice plc payment in 3 years and there won’t be one this year coming either
Some of those wealthy individuals in Jd that came a bought all that land lost their arse trying to farm it and have had to sell it or lease it back to the farmers they kicked off
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:17 am to Sao
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If Arkansas started raising crawfish, would you go out of business?
Will never happen based on climate alone, short crawfish growing season b/c of cooler temperatures. A crawfish season in AR rice growing region would run from April-June/July at best. There is a little crawfish farming in southern AR - it’s a novelty more than anything.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 11:04 am
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:21 am to Midtiger farm
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they know how to work the insurance and pp game
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:22 am to SWLA92
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I’m not mistaken they have a heavier soil more clay type soil. That is not good for crawfish at all. You need a more sandy soil type for crawfish to thrive.
St Landry and avoylles guys catch a shite load of crawfish on alluvial heavy clay ground
Also most of the land west of Crowley’s ridge in Ark is prairie silt loam - the exact same ground we have down here
The spots they put corn and cotton on are sandy loam
They can’t grow crawfish because it’s gets too cold
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:22 am to SWLA92
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This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:25 am to Epic Cajun
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You're telling me that the big farmers with money to cover a loss on the year won't buy up farms that weren't profitable this season and can't afford it?
Maybe a few but your avg 55 year old rice farmer in sw LA with maybe one son that is farming with him isn’t looking to expand much
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:31 am to CrawDude
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A crawfish season in AR rice growing region would run from April-June/July at best. There is a little of crawfish farming in southern AR - it’s a novelty more than anything.
The temp in Stuttgart today is the same as BR. Has been for weeks.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:36 am to Sao
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The temp in Stuttgart today is the same as BR. Has been for weeks
Nice anecdotal evidence
What’s the historical avg ?
How many freezes do they get compared to Crowley LA ?
Why don’t they start planting rice the same time farmers in south LA do?
Also another factor in Ark is lack of irrigation capacity in some areas
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:37 am to Midtiger farm
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Maybe a few but your avg 55 year old rice farmer in sw LA with maybe one son that is farming with him isn’t looking to expand much
If there is money to be made, someone is going to make it. One down year isn't going to change that. If it does, these farmers need to be better businessmen
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:42 am to Midtiger farm
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Nice anecdotal evidence
What’s the historical avg ?
How many freezes do they get compared to Crowley LA ?
Why don’t they start planting rice the same time farmers in south LA do?
Also another factor in Ark is lack of irrigation capacity in some areas
Are you under an impression that air temp and ground temp at varied depth is the same?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 9:48 am to Epic Cajun
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If there is money to be made, someone is going to make it. One down year isn't going to change that. If it does, these farmers need to be better businessmen
Yea I’m sure you know so much about the farm economy
Are they going to make enough money on the expanded acres when you factor in buying more equipment and hiring more labor?
What you see mostly now is farmers buying ground they are already farming when landowners die or big landowners buying more land and the farmers only farming for that landlord
The crawfish industry wasn’t good last year either when the supply was too high
Too many acres and the market is hard to expand
The tail meat industry gets beat up away from LA by the foreign imports
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