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re: The IVF Ruling Puts Republicans in a Bad Spot Just Before the Election
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:27 pm to TBoy
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:27 pm to TBoy
quote:
reproductive choices
You mean, as in seeing a pregnancy (however conceived) to term?
If so, then you are correct.
Otherwise, you are just being your typical, piece of shite self.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:31 pm to RobbBobb
Look up selective reduction which happens in almost every IVF case, and tell me this is not abortion.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:47 pm to RFK
The evil of the Dems for Democracy at work.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:48 pm to Ann Arbor Tiger
How many of these you got for us. Is it approaching the million mark? Per Year?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:01 pm to themunch
Every time IVF occurs, multiple embryos are inserted to help ensure one or more implants. If 2 or more implant, which happens in many cases, selective reduction is recommended by the OB.
Article about selective reduction from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
“Spontaneous multifetal pregnancies have always posed increased medical risks to pregnant women and their fetuses. Between 1980 and 2009, the increased use of assisted reproductive technology and controlled ovarian hyperstimulation with gonadotropins resulted in a dramatic increase in the incidence of multifetal pregnancies. More recently, advances in laboratory techniques and a national effort by professional groups have led to greatly improved live birth rates despite the transfer of fewer embryos, which has significantly reduced the incidence of twins and higher-order multiple births 2. As an example, between 1980 and 2009, the twin birth rate increased 76%, from 18.9 to 33.3 per 1,000 live births 3. It has since stabilized and is currently 33.5 twins per 1,000 live births 4. The birth rate for higher-order multiples increased more than 400% between 1980 and 1998, when it peaked at 1.935 per 1,000 births 3. Between 1998 and 2015, deliveries of higher-order multiples decreased by 46% to 1.036 per 1,000 births 4. Although these advances have reduced the rate of higher-order multifetal pregnancies after in vitro fertilization (IVF), the risk remains higher than with naturally achieved pregnancies. Unlike with IVF, fertility treatments that involve controlled ovarian hyperstimulation with gonadotropins do not control for the number of eggs fertilized or embryos implanted. As such, the risk of a higher-order multifetal pregnancy is increased compared with IVF. This risk is estimated to be 9% 5.”
Article about selective reduction from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
“Spontaneous multifetal pregnancies have always posed increased medical risks to pregnant women and their fetuses. Between 1980 and 2009, the increased use of assisted reproductive technology and controlled ovarian hyperstimulation with gonadotropins resulted in a dramatic increase in the incidence of multifetal pregnancies. More recently, advances in laboratory techniques and a national effort by professional groups have led to greatly improved live birth rates despite the transfer of fewer embryos, which has significantly reduced the incidence of twins and higher-order multiple births 2. As an example, between 1980 and 2009, the twin birth rate increased 76%, from 18.9 to 33.3 per 1,000 live births 3. It has since stabilized and is currently 33.5 twins per 1,000 live births 4. The birth rate for higher-order multiples increased more than 400% between 1980 and 1998, when it peaked at 1.935 per 1,000 births 3. Between 1998 and 2015, deliveries of higher-order multiples decreased by 46% to 1.036 per 1,000 births 4. Although these advances have reduced the rate of higher-order multifetal pregnancies after in vitro fertilization (IVF), the risk remains higher than with naturally achieved pregnancies. Unlike with IVF, fertility treatments that involve controlled ovarian hyperstimulation with gonadotropins do not control for the number of eggs fertilized or embryos implanted. As such, the risk of a higher-order multifetal pregnancy is increased compared with IVF. This risk is estimated to be 9% 5.”
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:06 pm to Ann Arbor Tiger
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?????
Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:46 pm to the808bass
quote:you serious?
If you’re retarded. We have a good friend who had three children through IVF. They donated to couples who didn’t have fertilized eggs.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:30 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
You're getting emotional because you've been lied to about this issue and believe it.
Where am I wrong in my post?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:01 pm to TDsngumbo
So I don't feel like making a new topic but I have often wondered something.
I have two coworkers who are strong Pro-Life. Neither is very big on government support programs though.
So how can you really be Pro Life if once the child is born you go "good luck from here on out". Wouldn't you feel the need to ensure the child has every opportunity until they reach a set age?
I feel like this is why I've never been Pro-Life. Because I simply will not agree to have the government become responsible for all these welfare moms who pop out baby after baby, needing to go on Maury to figure out who the dad is.
I have two coworkers who are strong Pro-Life. Neither is very big on government support programs though.
So how can you really be Pro Life if once the child is born you go "good luck from here on out". Wouldn't you feel the need to ensure the child has every opportunity until they reach a set age?
I feel like this is why I've never been Pro-Life. Because I simply will not agree to have the government become responsible for all these welfare moms who pop out baby after baby, needing to go on Maury to figure out who the dad is.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:04 pm to SloaneRanger
quote:
Will be fixed before the election
Alabama is trending blue, as a result of the mindless ruling. That'll be the fix
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:08 pm to tarzana
quote:
Alabama is trending blue,
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:24 pm to tarzana
quote:
tarzana
at your age, I'd be very careful about bragging about being pro baby killing.
either that or start investing in asbestos.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:36 pm to RFK
quote:
against the wishes of their constituents when they could be focusing on something meaningful
Do you mean like the Libtard’s have been doing since 2015. They made up shite against him. Made up shite because they knew the media would help them push the lies. Do you think they could have been doing something else for the last nine years instead of being obsessed with Trump and neglecting any form of real government. The TDS is strong with the Libtard’s
Posted on 2/25/24 at 10:39 pm to Rebel
quote:
pro baby killing
Good try, but epic fail. IVF is about making human life, not ending it
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:42 am to Ann Arbor Tiger
quote:
Look up selective reduction which happens in almost every IVF case, and tell me this is not abortion.
It is abortion based upon life begins at conception.
What is the incidence of multi fetal reduction in IVF?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:47 am to TDsngumbo
quote:
Where am I wrong in my post?
Because this ruling was literally about financial liability of a medical facility that killed a couples baby due to negligence.
I have friends who after years of efforts birthed a baby with the mothers last viable egg.
If the facility would have killed it due to negligence I would want them to be able to sue so that it incentivizes elimination of negligence.
Should couples not be able to sue?
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