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re: Is Karl Malone the best basketball player born in Louisiana?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:50 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:50 am to Obtuse1
quote:There are many in the conversation for best defenders of all time. None of them are in the GOAT conversation unless they have offense to match.
He was one if not the best defender of all time.
Nobody is disputing that Bill Russell was a great defender. I’m saying he only played on one side of the ball, and that’s what makes him incredibly overrated.
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:53 am to LSUFanMizeWay
quote:Because his team with many other all-stars won a bunch of championships when there were 8 teams in the league. “Chamberlain vs. Russell” was probably the first star match up in the sport with title implications.
That is a dumbass statement, there is a reason he is considered one of the greatest basketball players of all-time. Matching up against Chamberlain and winning is the same as beating Jordan.
I’m not saying that Russell wasn’t a great player. I’m saying he’s been incredibly overrated because of the number of championships won by the team he was on.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:55 am to LSU82BILL
quote:If Rudy Gobert played on a team with 5 other all-stars in a league of only 8 teams, he would have won a bunch of Finals too.
Yeah, because rebounding and defense aren't an important part of the game. It's all about gaudy scoring averages, right? Let me know when they name NBA Finals MVP Award after Rudy Gobert. Since he's never sniffed the NBA Finals, you may be waiting a while.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:30 pm to PrimeTime Money
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If Rudy Gobert played on a team with 5 other all-stars in a league of only 8 teams, he would have won a bunch of Finals too.
dude WTF are you talking about? you know you can look this stuff up, right?
Russell played in the All Star game from 58-69
in those years he played with three team mates in the All Star game ONE TIME, 1962
the Celtics All Stars from that era were usually G Sam Jones, F John Havlicek, and C Russell
an old Cousy, Heinsohn and an old Bailey Howell were mixed in at different times. Wilt had All Star team mates too.
So I will grant you Sam Jones and Hondo and Russell were stout but the guy who validates your point is Tommy Heinsohn?
The NBA expanded to 9 teams in 1961-62, 10 teams in 1966-67, 12 teams in 1967-68 and 14 teams in 1968-69
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:22 pm to Saunson69
He may be but he’s also the biggest POS. Didn’t even speak to his kids by another woman until they turned 18. And they tried to contact him. He’s a huge jerk. Can’t stand that guy.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:48 pm to GentleJackJones
my personal favorite was The Chief!
Posted on 6/8/24 at 12:48 am to LSUballs
quote:Oakland, California is where Bill Russell is from
West Monroe I believe.
This post was edited on 6/8/24 at 12:49 am
Posted on 6/8/24 at 1:06 am to TigerIron
quote:Sounds like rings are a terrible way to judge players
He has as many NBA championships as Michael Jordan + LeBron James + Nikola Jokic
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:46 am to Saunson69
Not the best, but if LSU would have had Larry Wilson from Nichols and John Rudd from McNeese on their team, they would have been very hard to beat.
This post was edited on 6/8/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
Born in West Monroe, moved to California at age 6. One high school teammate was Frank Robinson.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 10:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
Born in West Monroe, moved to California at age 6. One high school teammate was Frank Robinson.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 11:29 am to FightinTigersDammit
It’s Bill Russell then Russell then Russell if we are talking about best player just born in Louisiana. If you are having a conversation with someone and they say Bill Russell is overrated immediately quit talking basketball with this person.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 12:17 pm to PrimeTime Money
I don’t think I’ve ever read anything so stupid.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 3:06 pm to Obtuse1
My only isssue with Russell is, he was a Center that in no way shape or form would be a Center in today’s NBA. He might be the best born in Louisiana. He 100% deserves to be top 75 alltime and even top 10ish in NBA history. I just can’t put him in the Goat convo like a lot of people want to.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:01 pm to Bigpoppat
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Nobody thinks Karl Malone is better than Shaq
Better human being? Of course not. Better basketball player, what metric are we using? 1 vs 1, Malone takes him to the mid range and rains jumpers all day. He can match Shaqs strength better than Shaq can venture out and defend. Couldnt hack a Shaq him to eliminate his advantage and Karls a much better passer. Point is, it's very much debatable. #s,without looking, are probably in Karl's favor. The human being doesn't apply when comparing the talents and successes of playing basketball. Shaqs biggest advantage on paper is championships and blocked shots. The rest, advantage Karl Malone. I'm sure there's some analytical bullshite that will say different but the eye test says Malone was a better basketball player. My eyes anyway.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:11 pm to Saunson69
Karl Malone’s off season weight and physical training regiments were things of legend.
Many NBA and NFL players would train with him…..all would wither away while Malone kept going.
Malone is the best current or former NBA player born in the state of Louisiana.
Many NBA and NFL players would train with him…..all would wither away while Malone kept going.
Malone is the best current or former NBA player born in the state of Louisiana.
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:18 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Verlander beast is such a pussy
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:24 pm to Saunson69
No love for Joe D.???
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:39 pm to supatigah
Heinsohn didn't suck. He was RoY the same year Russell broke in (although Russ missed part of the season playing in the Olympics).
Posted on 6/8/24 at 8:43 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Bill Russell is the most overrated player of all-time
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