re: BMI

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to me if you are natural...waist size at navel is better measurement for health.

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Probably true, however BMI is way better than the average person thinks. Even an extraordinarily fit large athlete (defensive linemen, bodybuilders, upper weight category strength athletes, etc.) will have downsides to a high BMI. Your joints, particularly the lower extremity joints, DGAF how much muscle you're carrying. Likewise, all the organ systems are stressed with excess weight, even if it is a lot of "good" weight.

I know from your posts you have an extraordinary depth of experience in some of these issues, but it is a lot of "inside baseball" and very specialized as you have already conceded to a degree, even in this thread.

BMI (and I was skeptical myself back in the day) IS a good measurement because of the research that has been done. Likewise, there is also good research on waist size (as a gauge of visceral fat). It should go without saying that carrying large amounts of lean muscle (which has positives of its own to balance versus a more ideal BMI) instead of visceral fat (which has fewer positives and far more negatives) is preferable for health, but not without disadvantages of its own.