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re: 4 year long study on Wegovy/semaglutide shows heart benefits and safety

Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:29 am to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:29 am to
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Incorrect. The hormonal imbalance is the root cause driver behind the majority of cases of people with the disease of obesity. Fix the root cause, and the symptoms of the disease subside.

Now, there are compounding issues further down the line. The availability of calorie dense foods has become more and more a driver, but it isn’t the root cause. If patients don’t have the food noise and satiation is achieved with less food intake and faster, the availability of calorie dense foods wouldn’t cause symptoms of the disease of obesity. The regulatory process in the body is the root cause.

I’ll avoid the rabbit holes and keep on point. However, for the record, there are plenty of compounding issues. One of them is our food supply and the lack of financial access to healthy whole foods
If people were eating healthy foods like fruit and veggies, they could eat constantly and still not get fat. The problem people have is the kinds of foods they eat, and the amount they eat.

Back in the 1950’s, a McDonald’s meal was the equivalent today of a single cheeseburger, a small fry and a small drink. That is what an adult filled up on. Now, people are scarfing down giant double patty cheeseburgers with bacon, a large fry and a gigantic soda. Multiple times a week.

People are just eating way more now than humans ever used to, and the food they are eating way more of now is way more calorie dense and unhealthy. That combination leads to people being huge. And that way of eating changes the brain chemistry to continue to eat that way. Humans weren’t born with this imbalance. It has been conditioned due to habit.

If people would stop eating like this and deal with the temporary discomfort, their body will change and adapt to their new way of eating. Most people just aren’t willing to do it. If these drugs can help people to kick the habit like a nicotine patch does for smokers, then I can see the value in that.

But don’t sit here and sell me this nonsense that obesity is some natural condition for most people and they have no culpability. That’s absolute nonsense.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22796 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:35 am to
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Back in the 1950’s, a McDonald’s meal was the equivalent today of a single cheeseburger, a small fry and a small drink. That is what an adult filled up on. Now, people are scarfing down giant double patty cheeseburgers with bacon, a large fry and a gigantic soda. Multiple times a week.

People are just eating way more now than humans ever used to, and the food they are eating way more of now is way more calorie dense and unhealthy. That combination leads to people being huge. And that way of eating changes the brain chemistry to continue to eat that way. Humans weren’t born with this imbalance. It has been conditioned due to habit.




I think you have reading comprehension issues. The OP is telling you this exact thing. He is just framing it scientifically and telling you that it is a calculated issue to sell more bad food. He literally said that processed foods cause the GLP-1 imbalance, thus causing people to want more processed foods. You are focusing on OP calling it a hormonal thing instead of focusing on the cause of the hormonal thing.


ETA: It isn't the OP saying it. Its Bawthouse. My mistake.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:38 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:43 am to
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If people would stop eating like this and deal with the temporary discomfort, their body will change and adapt to their new way of eating. Most people just aren’t willing to do it. If these drugs can help people to kick the habit like a nicotine patch does for smokers, then I can see the value in that.

But don’t sit here and sell me this nonsense that obesity is some natural condition for most people and they have no culpability. That’s absolute nonsense.


nobody said different

but why do you give a frick on how they do it? why are you assigning a moralistic view point to things?

why cant you acknowledge not everyone has your discipline?

i dont need this medicine, but i can understand why others might

i dont really give a frick how people lose the fat, im just happy for less fat people.

and since you like to talk shite, what is your bodyfat %?
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
223 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:47 am to
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But don’t sit here and sell me this nonsense that obesity is some natural condition for most people and they have no culpability. That’s absolute nonsense.


Sorry you can’t accept facts. There is 100% a genetic component to this. Without question. I have already agreed that I believe there are compounding issues and that food supply is a big one.
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