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re: Rapid fatloss diet support thread

Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by adidaman27
Stafford, TX
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:39 pm to
I think I must be doing something wrong, and I'm not sure what it is. I have some theories, but I don't know why the weight isn't coming off for me.

I started 8/21: Category 2 (25% BF), 215 lbs., and lifting weights 3 days a week. After 22 straight days of compliance (2 refeeds, 3 cheat meals) I have only lost 7 lbs. 5 of which were the first week. I take measurements once a week on Saturday morning and have only lost 1" on my waist and 2 lbs since the first 5 days. My refeeds are Tuesday and cheat meals on Saturday night so I don't think that would affect the measurements.

I have identified a few things that I might not be doing "by the book" and I'm looking for other opinions on what might be the issue.

1. I'm working out too hard - I took the 3 day workout example from his book and adjusted it. I do the max sets he suggests and usually 10 reps instead of 6-8. I used starting weight the 1st week that was kind of low because I wasn't sure how I would feel. I've gone up in weight easily each workout so far, but I'm near my old numbers and I'm struggling a bit more. At the end of each workout I do a 15 min(leg day) or 8 min(upper day) ab workout. I consider it a little cardio. I think it may be too much cardio, but I don't do anything else all day (desk job). I also drink a whey isolate drink (20g p, 1 carb) before and after my workout. I tried skipping a workout before my last weigh in, but I'm not certain what affect it had.

2. I'm doing refeeds and/or cheat meals wrong - my first refeed was day 9 on the diet. 4 days after my 1st cheat meal. Eating that amount of carbs (goal of 400g) was awful. I got them all by eating a small amount of quinoa, sweet potatoe, bread, and a TON of lentils. I was forcing them down and felt way too full. 2nd refeed I set my grams goal a bit lower and used brown rice. Still way too full, but better. I can't imagine why I have to eat so much, but since I'm lifting I do as much as I can.

I haven't gone crazy on my cheat meals. A Caniac w/ sweet teas one time. A pretty thick bacon double cheeseburger, shared fries, and a milkshake another time. Then last one was Chicken Parm, cheese bread, and some ice cream for my wife's bday. I don't know the calories but I think they're reasonable. I always hit my protein too.

3. Eating off the list - I have not been fighting cravings or hunger so far, and haven't felt the need to eat veggies at each meal. I take a greens supplement and I'm trying psyllium husk for fiber. Neither were on his list. I've also tried a few 0 calorie seasonings. Walden farms dressing and bbq sauce with my chicken/turkey (no more than a tbsp). I also like Propel's 0 calorie electrolyte powder. At most one or two packets a day. Also, it's a bit easier to swallow all of these big vitamins for me with Jello. So, 1 or 2 sugar free 10 calorie Jellos if I need it. I wonder how all the 0 calorie sugar substitutes affect weight loss sometimes.

4. Sodium intake and water - I don't know a good way to monitor all of my sodium, but I would be surprised if I get 3g each day. I brine most of my meat and use some salty seasonings, but not a ton.

I also doubt I get 2 gallons of water a day. I drink at least 1 gallon, but not much after that. Just seems like I go to the bathroom enough already.

Last thing that isn't quite compliant is that I'm still not up to the full 3 doses a day of the EC stack. I'm very sensitive to stimulants and I'm working my way up. Ephedra is at 1.5 doses. Caffeine is at 1 dose.

Sorry for the wall of text, but I appreciate any thoughts or comments from the wealth of experience here. I promised myself 6 weeks on this diet, but the lack of results through 3 wks is disheartening. Thanks!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31575 posts
Posted on 9/12/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

started 8/21: Category 2 (25% BF), 215 lbs., and lifting weights 3 days a week. After 22 straight days of compliance (2 refeeds, 3 cheat meals) I have only lost 7 lbs. 5 of which were the first week. I take measurements once a week on Saturday morning and have only lost 1" on my waist and 2 lbs since the first 5 days. My refeeds are Tuesday and cheat meals on Saturday night so I don't think that would affect the measurements.



Thats not bad progress, but you should have seen more for sure.

quote:

1. I'm working out too hard - I took the 3 day workout example from his book and adjusted it. I do the max sets he suggests and usually 10 reps instead of 6-8. I used starting weight the 1st week that was kind of low because I wasn't sure how I would feel. I've gone up in weight easily each workout so far, but I'm near my old numbers and I'm struggling a bit more. At the end of each workout I do a 15 min(leg day) or 8 min(upper day) ab workout. I consider it a little cardio. I think it may be too much cardio, but I don't do anything else all day (desk job). I also drink a whey isolate drink (20g p, 1 carb) before and after my workout. I tried skipping a workout before my last weigh in, but I'm not certain what affect it had.


Try cutting it back to 2 days lifting concentrating on the follwing lifts

Incline DB Bench
Deads
Weighted Chins
Barbell Shoulder Press
Squats
Weighted Dips

For abs just do 3 sets of hanging leg raises.

For cardio try adding morning walks. Start out shooting for 180 mins a day working up to 360 mins a week. here is a good article on walking.

Stop drinking the whey shake. Dont waste your calories on that when you could be eating real whole food.


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2. I'm doing refeeds and/or cheat meals wrong - my first refeed was day 9 on the diet. 4 days after my 1st cheat meal. Eating that amount of carbs (goal of 400g) was awful. I got them all by eating a small amount of quinoa, sweet potatoe, bread, and a TON of lentils. I was forcing them down and felt way too full. 2nd refeed I set my grams goal a bit lower and used brown rice. Still way too full, but better. I can't imagine why I have to eat so much, but since I'm lifting I do as much as I can.



Doesn't sound like you did too bad here at all but try this...14 days strict, no refeed, no cheat meal and see how that goes for you.


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Eating off the list - I have not been fighting cravings or hunger so far, and haven't felt the need to eat veggies at each meal. I take a greens supplement and I'm trying psyllium husk for fiber. Neither were on his list. I've also tried a few 0 calorie seasonings. Walden farms dressing and bbq sauce with my chicken/turkey (no more than a tbsp). I also like Propel's 0 calorie electrolyte powder. At most one or two packets a day. Also, it's a bit easier to swallow all of these big vitamins for me with Jello. So, 1 or 2 sugar free 10 calorie Jellos if I need it. I wonder how all the 0 calorie sugar substitutes affect weight loss sometimes.


This is fine, don't worry about this at all.


quote:

Sodium intake and water - I don't know a good way to monitor all of my sodium, but I would be surprised if I get 3g each day. I brine most of my meat and use some salty seasonings, but not a ton.

I also doubt I get 2 gallons of water a day. I drink at least 1 gallon, but not much after that. Just seems like I go to the bathroom enough already.

Last thing that isn't quite compliant is that I'm still not up to the full 3 doses a day of the EC stack. I'm very sensitive to stimulants and I'm working my way up. Ephedra is at 1.5 doses. Caffeine is at 1 dose.



If you are drinking atleast 1 gallon, you are fine. Don't worry about sodium unless you start cramping. Easy way to up it is add salt to all your meats after cooking. Use the ephedra only as needed.


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