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re: Debt vs investments

Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:27 pm to
I realize now that my sarcasm wasn't super obvious - I am on the cash flow side of this argument
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:15 pm to
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It's not as simple as saying a 6% equity return is higher than a 5% interest rate.



Not when one of the two is a gamble and the other is a certianty.
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6461 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:04 am to
I'm not a finance guy, but nearly 100% of my stress comes from debt. I dump everything I can on debt (student loans and vehicle is all I currently have). Once those two are gone (24-30 more months), I will be pouring money into investments.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:08 am to
I feel the same way
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7499 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:49 am to
I know the percentages and numbers may work out better to invest, but I imagine feeling of being debt free is worth it
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 11:04 am to
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I know the percentages and numbers may work out better to invest, but I imagine feeling of being debt free is worth it


That's your opinions, and others would rather invest that money. Neither opinion is wrong, it's just personal preference. I don't understand why all of these have to turn into a pissing match.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1425 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 11:43 am to
I do a hybrid approach. When the markets are high like now, I put the extra money toward the mortgage. If there is a crash/correction, I'll buy more stocks.

If someone goes the investment route, you still have the option of selling your investments and apply it to the mortgage. Hopefully in 15-20 years you'd have enough to pay the house off.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:06 pm to
Aren't you the guy who advises keeping at least a quarter of your portfolio in bonds?
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4136 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:24 pm to
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I know the percentages and numbers may work out better to invest, but I imagine feeling of being debt free is worth it


Generally speaking, it is. While the type of debt may factor into the debate (mortgage debt on rental real estate vs. an auto loan or a consumer loan to finance a "gotta have it now" purchase, for instance), one could easily find himself having to sell that asset or investment if things go pear-shaped at an inopportune time. You just have to recognize the risk in borrowing money on one asset in order to invest in some other asset. When you carry debt on one thing and invest in something else, that's essentially what you're doing. As long as you don't try to fool yourself into believing otherwise, and you're OK with it, all is well... until it's not.

And as you're pointing out, the negative psychological affect of knowing that you have debt is not good for many/most people's peace of mind. When stats talk about money issues being the root cause of most divorces, I'm pretty sure that those money issues are not related to the couple having too much money and too little debt.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4136 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:27 pm to
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I'm not a finance guy, but nearly 100% of my stress comes from debt. I dump everything I can on debt (student loans and vehicle is all I currently have). Once those two are gone (24-30 more months), I will be pouring money into investments.


Good way of thinking, IMO. I don't know you or how old you are, but I'm willing to bet a shiny new quarter that you're going to be just fine.
Posted by TobiasFunke838
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Feb 2016
8 posts
Posted on 3/17/18 at 3:51 pm to
Can you explain why? I do all my stuff through Schwab, but one of my buddies is going through the application process to work there. It would be nice to know if they’re shady or incompetent or anything; I was gonna let him manage a couple grand while I was deployed.
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