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re: Saban hung up his whistle because of this new landscape

Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by logansrun
Amite
Member since Dec 2015
1813 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:05 pm to
If there was a salary cap, don't you know teams would find a way to skirt the rules? They always have and they always will.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10580 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:03 pm to
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how do they bridge the gap to afford other sports that depend on football revenue? Those just have to go away now?

No, there's more than enough money to go around. Each SEC school will start making almost 100 million annually during the new deal with ESPN. Athletes across the board will sign a contract just like we all do when we're hired for a job. As long as it's collectively bargained, there should be no problems with compensation. Boosters can go back to paying for facilities and all of the other things they supplemented pre NIL. Get rid of each schools collective.
Posted by Toadfrggy82
Kaplan, La
Member since Aug 2023
1186 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:07 pm to
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Tiger fans melt every summer when the news is slow.


Ain’t that the truth
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58843 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Tiger fans melt every summer when the news is slow.


Bingo!
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8684 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:15 pm to
The LOVE of money will ruin it.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43182 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:15 pm to
Sour grapes eh?
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12460 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:25 pm to
I have told many people that LSU won the last college national championship. All other will be tainted with turning college to pro.
Posted by Jim bean xxx
Member since Sep 2018
4545 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:49 pm to
Money is fine…problem is these kids get the money and are able to move on or subsequently ask for more

There needs to be a contract like in the real world

No more bouncing around or renegotiating
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1792 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 12:00 am to
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how do they bridge the gap to afford other sports that depend on football revenue? Those just have to go away now?



This is a boogeyman more than anything. There are multiple entire divisions that run full athletics departments without having a football program that makes any money at all.
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
2524 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 9:30 am to
It's not JUST the sport that's going down the pisser because if money and greed....js
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30423 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 12:13 pm to
He hung up his whistle because he knew he’d be really good at it.

Therefore, it would be taxing on his mind and body.

So I’m kind of glad he’s gone.
Posted by Jojodaddy
Member since Dec 2015
322 posts
Posted on 5/6/24 at 2:28 pm to
In the real world you can bounce around all you want.

Just give it some time. New markets always have volatility. These kids are speculative investments. Over time you get more data on return on investment, and patterns form. Will OU get bang for their buck? If not, the price will go down next year. And so on. This isn’t the collapse of something as much as a suddenly deregulated market finding its structure.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28424 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 12:34 pm to
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As long as it's collectively bargained, there should be no problems with compensation.


In theory, yes. But I think it will be a lot more complicated in reality. Namely Title IX. In a free marketplace the football and men's basketball players would command the highest salaries because those two (by and large) are the only profitable sports. However, you would have blowback from the female athletes to demand equal pay...under the auspices of federal law. So if the No 9 player on the women's golf team is getting paid the exact same "salary" as the All-SEC QB, what strong incentive do the football players have to collectively bargain? They like the current marketplace where they can be paid more of their market value without having to sign a contract.

Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19090 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Young good coaches will bolt for the NFL, older coaches will fade off into the sunset. All that will remain are middle of the road middle aged coaches who cant go anywhere else. The entire sport will suffer.


The coaches are not the only thing to matter. Fans are going to get tired of here today-gone tomorrow players and take a lesser interenst in the sport at this level. If that happens then the money evaporates.

If the governing body of CFB whomever that may be down the road has to stabilize the rosters for fans to stay in tune.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71277 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 4:54 pm to
When everyone can give recruits a Dodge Charger it's harder to stay ahead of the game.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39524 posts
Posted on 5/7/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Saban hung up his whistle because of this new landscape

Probably not. He probably retired because he was old. The new landscape was just something that an old man can’t adapt to. If he was ten years younger he would have figured it out.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6876 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:12 am to
Saban has said that a big factor was that he had players who sat the bench and had no shot at starting come in, and demand a big pay day or they would transfer.

The problem is you will have desperate schools that can't recruit like Ole Miss and just plain desperate schools like aTm who will pay these mercenaries whatever they ask for to go to their school.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2452 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:18 am to
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This move by OU will bite them in the butt, but this is kinda what desperate programs do. OU will not sustain this type of cash but make no mistake there will be a new desperate hopeful program every year.


Williams making more than everyone in OU football except Venables and more than the OU President and athletic director. Crazy times for a 9 month rental.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2452 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:21 am to
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have told many people that LSU won the last college national championship. All other will be tainted with turning college to pro.


Is our baseball from last year and gymnastics title this year tainted as well? NIL was prevalent for both those squads.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10889 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 3:55 pm to
Scholarship limits killed Barry Switzer as HC. He couldn't stockpile tons of talent with 200 scholarships.

Transfer portal and NIL killed Saban. He can't win recruits with process and rings alone. He didn't like re-recruiting the same players over and over again.
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