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re: You Are What The Market Says You Are Worth

Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5746 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

I think you're being a little harsh here especially considering that an auction Market is pretty much the epitome of free market

You have no clue what you’re talking about. The key words in my post were “20 football programs making $100,000,000+ per year”, not “auction”. Limited participants + huge amounts of money involved =/= free market valuation in any sense of the term
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4659 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

and pay what the market dictates
Wrong. Markets are wrong all the time regarding coaches and players. Was Jimbo worth the eleventy billion aggy has to pay him ? Is Russell Wilson worth his contract ?
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 4:32 pm to
This isn’t how it works anyway. Some teams are just worth more to play for so you should take less. Not everyone is equal when it comes to developing NFL players. Not everyone is equal when it comes to playing for championships. Not everyone is equal when it comes to coaching. Maybe LSU needs to get better at communicating that message if anything.

If these kids can’t take that into account then that just shows me they know they have no future and want all the money they can get now. We don’t want those players on this team. We want real NFL players. We might have to start paying more but at least pay the right player that type of money.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26860 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 5:00 pm to
In many situations, yes. But in a situation where you then have to perform to a certain level, no.

In your real estate analogy, it’s a place where you live. That’s it.

In a football player, there will be a measurable result that proves where you were on a productivity level.

Completely different situations and a very poor comparison.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5362 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 6:09 pm to
So what you’re saying is that the AD should step in and suggest to a Head Coach that he’s treading on thin ice because another school that’s been irrelevant for 25 years offered a DT 1million $ to come play on the DL for 4 months and leave. What would the other players that were recruited by said coach for far less money and actually have been here a minute. Dude this is an organization consisting of about a 120 members(staff, players etc).
We have a problem at DL right now but I guarantee they’ll figure it out.
Chill for second, there’s a plan that us on the outside aren’t privy to.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36590 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 6:19 pm to
That dude is an idiot
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41976 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:53 pm to
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Period. Not what a coach or fan base thinks you are worth. Why is a small apartment in NYC so expensive and that same place in BR cheap? Market. Until we are willing to come to grips with that and pay what the market dictates we will not get players


Ok, money bags
Posted by One Arm Steve
Peach State
Member since Sep 2022
340 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 9:04 pm to
Would you pay $90K for a Corolla just because it was one of the last cars on the lot? Would that make it "market price" going forward?
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47719 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

they pay a scrub $1m, 84 other people will enter the portal in 8 months all requesting the same payout.


Dudes on different teams talk… it’s gonna be a lot more than 84
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14875 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 3:50 am to
Each buyer is part of the market and must decide what they want and how much they are willing to pay for it. Some people are willing to pay 100k for a truck, many are not. Worth is in the eye of the beholder.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30423 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:23 am to
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What don't you understand about the situation? If they pay a scrub $1m, 84 other people will enter the portal in 8 months all requesting the same payout.


OU just paid a guy 1.5 million and you act like our players don’t know that we can’t afford that.

Should OU tamper with broke-LSU from now on and encourage our top 5 players to enter portal?

Both teams know we aren’t in the NIL game for keeps.
Posted by Tigertuxedo
Member since Dec 2023
85 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:

You have no clue what you’re talking about. The key words in my post were “20 football programs making $100,000,000+ per year”, not “auction”. Limited participants + huge amounts of money involved =/= free market valuation in any sense of the term


With all due respect, it just sounds like you don't really know what a free market means. She probably go look up an auction and free market. This guy is going to play for the highest bidder regardless of the pool of participants. Yes many people are priced out of being able to bid but that's because his price tag is so high. Still a free market. Again, I don't think you understand what free market means
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8651 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:21 am to
The NIL market is skewed by people who are bad with money and impatient. The market would come down if they refused to pay high $$$
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8651 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:23 am to
He didn’t promise. He said he expects. That is different. Stop being a child. Expectations change. We missed on TP players in year two. We had bad defensive coaches in years 1 and 2. And you only think the team is bad because media has told you. You haven’t watched practice nor have the knowledge to know what’s good or bad of you had watched.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66735 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:29 am to
Ed O and Miles took over strong programs with deep rosters.

Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36590 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:13 pm to
Yep.

What Kelly inherited was probably worse than what Saban did, just due to quantity.
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
324 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:18 pm to
No one is denying that. It’s year three though and there’s the transfer portal
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36590 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:25 pm to
And we're now on our 5th defensive line coach since the 2022 bowl game.
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
324 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:38 pm to
Maybe he should have made better hires? The Lindsey hire was baffling
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36590 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:48 pm to
Name a coach that would have been a better hire at that time and explain why they would have been better.
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