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Earliest known amputation of human appendage occurred 31,000 years ago
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:49 am
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:49 am
Not only was it performed skillfully and with precision, but the patient is believed to have survived the procedure.
I'm not saying aliens, but...
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I'm not saying aliens, but...
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Perhaps it took place in the shelter of a cave, or maybe outside where the tropical sun made it easier for the surgeon to see. The nervous young patient could have been fully alert, or sedated somehow with a concoction of medicinal plants from the surrounding forest, before the sharp stone did its grim work. Such fascinating details will likely always be speculation but an amazing fossil find makes one fact clear; 31,000 years ago, a young hunter-gatherer in Borneo had their lower left leg surgically amputated—and they survived.
Archaeologists working in a remote part of Indonesian Borneo have discovered what may be the earliest known example of a successful amputation—predating the next oldest such surgery by an amazing 24,000 years. A team of Indonesian and Australian researchers described the find this week in Nature.
The skeleton shows that a youngster’s lower left leg was skillfully severed and, despite the deadly risks of blood loss and infection, healed successfully. The leg bones show growth proving that the patient, though not very mobile, lived for years after the amputation, likely thanks to extensive community care during their convalescence and beyond. Scientists aren't sure whether the patient was male or female, but the stature makes male more likely. The amputation suggests that at least some foragers of Southeast Asia had developed significant medical knowledge and techniques long before the Neolithic Revolution some 12,000 years ago, after which other examples begin to appear in the archaeological record.
“It’s a remarkable find, and I do think it’s consistent with an amputation that’s been done surgically,” says Charlotte Roberts, a bioarchaeologist at Durham University who specializes in paleopathology and wasn’t involved in the research. “I can’t imagine what that child went through.”
The largely complete skeleton of a 19- or 20-year-old Homo sapiens was found during 2020 excavations at a site called Liang Tebo. The cave is in the remote Sangkulirang-Mangkalihat region of eastern Kalimantan, a rugged, rarely-visited landscape of limestone cliffs and forest accessible only by boat.
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:51 am to RollTide1987
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Sangkulirang-Mangkalihat
Bless you. Kleenex?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:55 am to RollTide1987
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The skeleton shows that a youngster’s lower left leg was skillfully severed and, despite the deadly risks of blood loss and infection, healed successfully.
A clean and efficient amputation is something we should all stand behind
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:56 am to RollTide1987
They had a leg up on other surgeons.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:57 am to RollTide1987
Successful??? The guy still died.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:57 am to RollTide1987
I mean, it didn’t take a genius to see that it might be a good idea to cut off rotting bone and flesh to save someone’s life. Still cool, but it’s definitely something ancient peoples would have thought of.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:58 am to RollTide1987
He got caught in some other woman's cave and she tried to cut it off. The original Lorena Bobbitt
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:02 am to RollTide1987
Yea.. there’s massive gaps in our knowledge of history
Resets by natural disasters really did a number on us
Resets by natural disasters really did a number on us
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:07 am to RollTide1987
I wonder what he took to ease the pain
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:17 am to RollTide1987
We vastly underestimate the intelligence of civilizations and people that came before us.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:46 am to RollTide1987
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Perhaps it took place in the shelter of a cave, or maybe outside where the tropical sun made it easier for the surgeon to see. The nervous young patient could have been fully alert, or sedated somehow with a concoction of medicinal plants from the surrounding forest, before the sharp stone did its grim work. Such fascinating details will likely always be speculation but an amazing fossil find makes one fact clear; 31,000 years ago, a young hunter-gatherer in Borneo had their lower left leg surgically amputated—and they survived.
If modern trends mean anything in relation to this story, it tells me that this procedure was likely done by a disgraced doctor who lost his license due to a drinking problem in his small, illegal office that was below a restaurant cave owned by a family of immigrant hunter/gatherers. The injury occurred during a run-by stoning when the intended targets returned throw and winged one of their assailants. This wasn't the only such procedure done by the good doctor.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:50 am to OMLandshark
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I mean, it didn’t take a genius to see that it might be a good idea to cut off rotting bone and flesh to save someone’s life.
Its like there's this prevailing thought that just because people lived thousands of years ago that they must have been retarded
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 11:53 am
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:54 am to RollTide1987
My money is on cannibalism
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:57 am to RollTide1987
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Scientists aren't sure whether the patient was male or female
Well no shite. Not sure it's even possible to know what this human identified as, now.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:30 pm to OMLandshark
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I mean, it didn’t take a genius to see that it might be a good idea to cut off rotting bone and flesh to save someone’s life.
I think the point of the story is that it was done successfully, not that it was simply thought of.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:51 pm to LegendInMyMind
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If modern trends mean anything in relation to this story, it tells me that this procedure was likely done by a disgraced doctor who lost his license due to a drinking problem in his small, illegal office that was below a restaurant cave owned by a family of immigrant hunter/gatherers
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:09 pm to GetCocky11
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Its like there's this prevailing thought that just because people lived thousands of years ago that they must have been retarded
Yeah, humans 80,000 years ago really weren’t all that dumber than we are. You can definitely find some dumb fricks in this world dumber than in theirs. Honestly agriculture made humans weaker and more diseased than they were out in nature and we seemingly only fully recovered from that in the early 1900s. The cavemen were much larger than the average person was say during the Bronze Age.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 1:14 pm to RollTide1987
They could do this, but written languages and cities didn't exist until 20,000 years later?
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