Kent State Anniversary

I guess the best way to characterize the social upheaval of the 60's is to say it was a natural, or organic response to legitimate racial oppression and a really fricked up war. Also, it was all domestic, it was American. They were protesting American issues, not foreign.

And it wasn't long after that this country realized the so called "commie" protesters were right on both counts.

Now my mother was in College at Vassar at the time and I asked her during the Floyd riots which was worse. The riots and upheaval of her time or now. She said now is far worse than what was going on in the 60's.

All this bullshite we're currently witnessing is an odd mix of real, undefined fear over the power of the Jewish state and ginned up, manufactured fake outrage. It's hard to tease out what's real from what's fake but I've got concerns over Israeli/Jewish influence in global and American policy as well. The Left is just doing a really poor job of articulating it.

It's as if they want to hide their fear of Jewish power in the lie of Palestinian oppression. If they would just come out and say Look, American Right. We here on the Left are concerned about all this Jewish shite stirring as well. Then maybe we all could find some common ground here.

If Israel has its way and it looks like they will. Then we'll be balls deep in another Middle Eastern corporate war. Consider the possibility there are aspects of these protests we can all get behind.

And no, I'm not antisemitic, but I am distrustful of the origins of all this as well as Israel's motives.

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1968 about Chicago riots.

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And Watts in 66 as well as Detroit (68ish), Kent State, Jackson State (1970). Riots that went bad and probably a single event or two triggered the escalation.

Jerry Rubin and the SDS started fights with the police, the guard and instigated not only that incident but Chicago and many others. He admitted as much years later.

Making the freest country in the history of the world seem like an oppressive police state to stoned boomers is one of the great retardation moments in human history.

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article from 1968 about Chicago riots

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Wow. That’s an unbelievable read.

And below that with the info about the other riots.

So more than college riots out of hand, it was city wide riots.

It’s also surprising that someone said their mother said now was worse. That’s exactly what I was wondering too. People who lived it and people who are educated about it.

Thanks y’all

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Jerry Rubin and the SDS started fights with the police, the guard and instigated not only that incident but Chicago and many others. He admitted as much years later. Making the freest country in the history of the world seem like an oppressive police state to stoned boomers is one of the great retardation moments in human history.

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Thank you. I don’t know who Jerry Rubin is, but I will look that up.

Follow up….. do you think we ever recovered from that?

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My sister in law was at Kent State when the shootings took place and, years later, I was in the courtroom during one of the federal civil trials - person was shot and paralyzed. My observations are that the blm riots were worse because the authorities allowed it to escalate Honestly, I cannot fathom the on campus riots today basically calling for the extermination of the Jewish race. They cannot comprehend the nazi parallels

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Did the majority of the students win law suits?

I can’t imagine if the cops did that during the BLM riots.

I have gotten a response yet about the divide. Was it a split country or loud and violent minority?

That’s story makes everything seem so small and connected.

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If I believed for one moment, Israel had it in the pants to finish what they started, I would be behind it.

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Unless you do what Israel is doing, you will never get Hamas separated or conquered in that area. War is hell. It's not fun. Sometimes you have to do something to protect your own. It's been like that for thousands of years. The world will never have peace until our savior says it's time to come home and he will torch the earth with people that do not believe or rejected him.

At LSU at that time and there was no similar rioting, but we were appalled that the National Guard would shoot and kill unarmed students.

i wonder what nick sabans view of the draft was. they were drafting back then by birthdays. if your birthday was one of the first 50 or so picked each year, you were going to vietnam. i guess if you went to college you got a deferment. anyway, many joined other military branches instead of being drafted into the army.