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re: Car rental in Europe

Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:50 am to
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3271 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 1:50 am to
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Get an International Driving Permit before you go. Some say you don't need it, and you probably won't, but it is cheap and good to have.


I’ve never needed one and I’ve rented cars in France, Germany, Italy, Belgium. What good does the international permit do?
Posted by SagesSon
Member since Apr 2019
756 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:47 am to
If you have to surrender your license, you can hand them the IDL and not your state DL. i, too, have driven numerous times in Europe, but carried my IDL for that reason. Small money for peace of mind.

I gave my co-workers a few 'when in Europe. driving tips. Stay in the right hand lane when on the continent unless you are passing. Leave blinker on until you pass. Do not flash lights at anyone, just use the blinkers.

When you enter the traffic circle, use your blinkers. If taking an immediate turn, use the right blinker. If exiting straight or taking a 'left', put the left blinker on. Change to your right blinker as you approach your exit road.

If driving in UK, reverse the lanes and turning blinker instructions.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1860 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:18 pm to
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I’ve never needed one and I’ve rented cars in France, Germany, Italy, Belgium. What good does the international permit do?




Not sure about those countries but in Austria it is the law for non-EU to carry an IDP. An IDP explains your driving privileges in several different languages.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35579 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 6:35 pm to
Yeah, it's a few dollars and a little time spend for peace of mind and if you get pulled over or in an accident it's what you should have on you.
Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1860 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:22 pm to
Tiger_n_Texas



Not sure exactly when you will be going to Austria but you might get a chance to play in the snow. All of the snow had melted in the ski resorts in Tyrol but the last week has been cold(below freezing during the day) and it has been snowing for 4 days with snow forecast for next week also.

Driving into Austria on A12, then heading toward Kitzbuhel on 178 will be some beautiful scenery if the snow stays on the mountains. I have gotten to see the Kitzbuheler Alps covered in snow in Feb 2020 and the real high mountains covered in snow in August several times.

Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1006 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:00 pm to
Thanks everyone for the tips and suggestions. We booked the rentals thru the airlines as it felt like the best option for price and brand.

6 days from Munich with Enterprise for 300 euro and 6 days from Brussels with Hertz for 240 euro, both standard SUV. Have to make the family pack LIGHT since everything is small over there.

Also went and picked up an international drivers permit from AAA; only took 10-15 min.

We're about 90% complete on logistics (rentals, hotels, tour tickets, etc). Still need to find a good canal tour in Amsterdam, catacombs in Paris, and concentration camp in Munich.

Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1860 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 7:27 am to
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Have to make the family pack LIGHT




Roll all of your pants and shirts, they will fit better than folding.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
53906 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:27 pm to
Yes, don’t do it
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10989 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:15 pm to
You are oh so CORRECT about driving/left lane in Germany/Austria/Switzerland and to some degree most of western Europe. The lane 'discipline' is outstanding....drivers tend to adhere to traffic laws such as SLOWER traffic stays in the right lanes and passing in the far left lane happens quickly, NO doddeling along, they get OUT OF THE WAY ! Probably due to the expense [up to $5k for an initial drivers lic.],it takes a year of 'training' to get licensed [they want you well versed in driving in ALL conditions,rain,ice,snow AND on ALL types of roads i.e. autobahn,country etc. high speed merging,mandatory use of blinkers etc. Fines/penalties are extremely high so most drivers guard their driving record. Along with these well trained drivers you have a yearly inspection for your vehicle which is a REAL inspection...vehicles which do not pass are NOT allowed on the roadways until ALL repairs are complete = NO clunkers breaking down all over the highways ! Most importantly, the semis are strictly relegated to the right lanes ONLY and at minimum 10 km lower speed limits as well as almost zero truck traffic allowed from Sat. noon until early Mon. am...they ALL agree this is the safer model for all traffic...they can all wait for the new toaster/washing machine etc. for a couple of extra days ! WHY this would not work in the US ? I'll give you a two word answer....truck lobby, they have bribed untold numbers of elected officials and the US DOT is seemingly powerless against them !
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:18 pm to
You will get speeding tickets, particularly in the Netherlands, if you are seemingly 1km over the adjustable limit. And you'll get them weeks after the fact, even after you watch people with NL/BE plates fly past you. Except for the DE/NL transit on the plane, I'd be train all the way. I only ever rented in Northern Europe because I was driving to Bastogne, etc. The car never left the hotel garage otherwise in Paris.

You don't want to drive in Paris, except to get there. Imagine NYC with 2x third world mixed in, depending on where you are. It's not Naples, but damn, unless you've driven overseas, you're not only not prepared for the Champs Elysée, you're barely prepared to enter Paris at all. And if you have a woman with you, she will be hitting you repeatedly and often no matter what you do.

Paris' problem, at least to me, was too many f*@&% train lines. Olive green, mint green, kelly green, dark green, light green, etc. But it's also Paris, so once we hit the hotel, we walked everywhere over the course of a couple of days anyway (including my 8 year old who trucked 15 miles in a single day without complaint.)

I never advise booking through third party sites, it greatly limits your flexibility and recourse. I always book direct, because then the company you booked with can actually help you. When you book through third parties, the people at the desk can't do squat.

You mentioned two cars, and your comfort in driving stick (I presume you know stick in a truck is different than stick in a car), but what about the other driver?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6529 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:28 pm to
To get more explicit about third party bookings, at least the hotel third parties (Crap-pedia, Scameloxity, etc.) create the booking and then pay the hotel with a fixed value pre-paid card. If you want to pay an extra $5 a night for another towel, the hotel literally can't do anything for you. You paid the third party 129.95, the hotel wasn't paid by you. They *can't* do something that costs them 130.05 without the employee getting taken behind the woodshed for helping you, so they won't (rightly so.)

I either book directly through Avis or Europcar, and I never booked cars frequently in the EU/UK/IE, on purpose.

Also, you're talking about 2 cars, and you're going to be paying for parking for each. It may be much cheaper to rent a mini bus from CDG to your hotel than it is to rent two cars and park them for days.
Posted by jrowla2
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
4081 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:41 pm to
Definitely get coverage. Standard is becoming less common so you may not even get one. My last three have been automatic.
The cars typically have car play for navigation. I use holafly for cell data and it works great.
Make sure you pay for parking wherever you have to bc they’re on it with the tickets if you don’t.
Driving in Europe is easy. In UK it was a different animal. I was stressed out every where.
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