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Response from LA Senator Regarding K-12 Vaccine Mandate
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:23 pm
I'm no attorney but doesn't seem accurate to me.....
Thank you for reaching out to the office. This continues to be a conversation in the office and among the legislators on how this will move forward.
The public is hoping for a petition to be started, but - everyone is learning in these unprecedented times- that doesn’t apply to this situation because this is a “rule” under Administrative Procedures Act, not a “law” or “executive order” that has the option of an override from the legislature.
They are having multiple conversations trying to navigate this and as we learn more, we will continue to share when we need you to jump in. It’s going to be all hands on deck when the time comes.
I know these aren’t answers, but at the moment, we don’t have the answers either. We are hopeful the suit is going to settle the matter.
Please keep checking in with me. I try to keep everyone in the loop, but that list is getting longer and longer and I know I will forget someone eventually.
Thank you,
Thank you for reaching out to the office. This continues to be a conversation in the office and among the legislators on how this will move forward.
The public is hoping for a petition to be started, but - everyone is learning in these unprecedented times- that doesn’t apply to this situation because this is a “rule” under Administrative Procedures Act, not a “law” or “executive order” that has the option of an override from the legislature.
They are having multiple conversations trying to navigate this and as we learn more, we will continue to share when we need you to jump in. It’s going to be all hands on deck when the time comes.
I know these aren’t answers, but at the moment, we don’t have the answers either. We are hopeful the suit is going to settle the matter.
Please keep checking in with me. I try to keep everyone in the loop, but that list is getting longer and longer and I know I will forget someone eventually.
Thank you,
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Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:32 pm to Truth10
Well then write legislation to overturn the rule dumbass
However, if it is just a rule, then it can’t be enforced like a law
However, if it is just a rule, then it can’t be enforced like a law
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:38 pm to Truth10
Here’s a novel idea…….. fuk jbe and don’t give your kids the vaccine(unless you want them vaccinated of course).
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:41 pm to jimjackandjose
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Well then write legislation to overturn the rule dumbass
Ya, this was a goofy response by them to act like their hands are tied because it's just a "rule." Unless this is firmly within the executive branch's authority, the legislature can make a law to ban it.
Eta: I'm talking way off the hip here, but I assume the Administrative Procedures Act, being an Act and all, was passed by the.... legislature. Which means the legislature could amend it, though I haven't read the text. JBE would veto of course, then I assume LA can override it if they have enough votes.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:42 pm to Truth10
They know exactly how to circumvent the legislatures in states like Louisiana
True communists. Make rules against the peoples will. JBE said he doesn't care the leg voted 13-2 to get rid of it.
True communists. Make rules against the peoples will. JBE said he doesn't care the leg voted 13-2 to get rid of it.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:44 pm to Truth10
I asked senator Milligan about getting a petition going back when it was relevant to remove emergency powers. He whined and complained about "what ifs" and "that could happen" and "who would make an emergency declaration if thishappens and we removed ut from JBE". Many many excuses to sit pat. He wrapped up with pray for better days.
Basically, there is no scenario in which they will do anything. Hell, JBE just reupped the emergency order for covid. Nothing moves these guys.
Basically, there is no scenario in which they will do anything. Hell, JBE just reupped the emergency order for covid. Nothing moves these guys.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:50 pm to jimjackandjose
If legislation was passed, it wouldn't happen until the next Session, and would still be subject to a likely veto.
IMHO, a bill/law will not address this issue in the short term.
In the longer view, I believe a governor from either party would veto any bill that would fundamentally shift that much power from the Executive to the Legislative branch.
IMHO, a bill/law will not address this issue in the short term.
In the longer view, I believe a governor from either party would veto any bill that would fundamentally shift that much power from the Executive to the Legislative branch.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:52 pm to Herooftheday
The excuses from them are hilarious. I'm beginning to think many of them were bought off too.
They have no desire to stop this.
They have no desire to stop this.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:54 pm to jat912
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would fundamentally shift that much power
Wouldn't the legislation only have to specify COVID? That's not a huge shift in power.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:54 pm to Truth10
That Senator is a chicken shite. He doesn't care. He represents the money that financed his campaign.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:56 pm to Truth10
That's horseshite.
If it has no basis in law, or arises from an EO, it is invalid on its face.
If it has no basis in law, or arises from an EO, it is invalid on its face.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 1:56 pm to Truth10
Then MAKE A frickING LAW!!
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:04 pm to OysterPoBoy
In my opinion, another recall attempt may be the only other option as these worthless Senators won’t do a thing. This recall attempt would get more than enough signatures.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:11 pm to Truth10
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because this is a “rule” under Administrative Procedures Act
Who does he think passed the APA? Does he realize that it can be repealed?
Oh, he likes not having to vote on every action that they can pass the buck on to the executive.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:12 pm to Truth10
The Louisiana legislature ain’t gonna do shite! All these Republicans want to be in a position to say we can do better than JBE. They don’t want anyone saying more people died because of Republicans. They want a boogie man for you to be afraid of and if they shut him down they loose that. Louisiana is circling the drain, time to go. Frick all these pu$$ies.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:44 pm to Truth10
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'm no attorney but doesn't seem accurate to me..
It's what we have been saying for almost two years. The governor has insane levels of exec power in a state of emergency.
The only way to check his power is for both the House and the Senate to vote to end the state of emergency.
21 months in... they have declined to both do so.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:47 pm to jat912
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If legislation was passed, it wouldn't happen until the next Session, and would still be subject to a likely veto.
IMHO, a bill/law will not address this issue in the short term.
Tomorrow, the Legislature could call themselves into session, pass such a bill, send it to JBE, he vetos it, then the Legislature goes back into a veto session and overrides it.
All of that could be done ASAP.
But 2/3rds of the legislature doesn't have the balls to do it.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:48 pm to Truth10
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In my opinion, another recall attempt may be the only other option
Can we recall JBE, House, and Senate, all at once?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:50 pm to Rarnette
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All these Republicans want to be in a position to say we can do better than JBE. They don’t want anyone saying more people died because of Republicans. They want a boogie man for you to be afraid of and if they shut him down they loose that.
Everyone wants to call JBE a slimy cocksucker but what about the 144 slimy cocksuckers in the legislature? Most of them are more slimy than JBE.
JBE is just echoing his party line. What the "Republicans" are doing is much, much worse.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 2:53 pm to Truth10
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in these unprecedented times
I already hate this person.
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