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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:24 am to Lima Whiskey
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:24 am to Lima Whiskey
lucky shot. by an ATACMS that didn't "get Through"
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Belbek Airfield, Russian-occupied Crimea, Russian firefighters douse the charred wreck of a 92N6E “Grave Stone” missile control radar, hit by a Ukrainian ATACMS.
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Belbek Airfield, Russian-occupied Crimea, Russian firefighters douse the charred wreck of a 92N6E “Grave Stone” missile control radar, hit by a Ukrainian ATACMS.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:35 am
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:35 am to ticklechain
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Israeli trophy systems cannot protect against drones. They and their ordinance come in too slow. This has been proven lately, although not to the level as it has been in Ukraine. Also the system has a donut hole. Meaning anything coming straight down will not be stopped. Weak point,if you will.
Is the Trophy system perfect? No. Trophy has stopped Hamas drone attacks but like I said it’s not perfect. However, it’s a lot better than the Arena system that Russia uses and the system that Ukraine uses. I would imagine that western designers are working quickly to improve it.
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I believe the cell signal thing you mentioned has a lot to do with this
As soon as Israel took down the cell system in Gaza the tank loses have decreased dramatically.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:39 am to cypher
This a war of attrition, and the side that can inflict larger sustained losses on the other side, while minimizing their own, will win. It's not about hitting a target once, it's about being able to do ten times daily for months on end. That's what would make a difference. Initially, ATACMS was getting through more than 66% of time, now it's somewhere in the single digits.
And the war is over, the losses Ukraine has suffered over the past 12 month ended any hope of victory, or even some kind of stalemate scenario. Those men are not replaceable.
And the war is over, the losses Ukraine has suffered over the past 12 month ended any hope of victory, or even some kind of stalemate scenario. Those men are not replaceable.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/15/24 at 12:12 pm to VolSquatch
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The blank was actually “low income earners”
I started to post that fact... but went for snark instead...
But yes, violent crime is mostly committed by impoverished people, because... well, there's little they have to lose when making mental calculations and risk assessment, and generally aren't accomplished at "impulse control" and executive functioning. The "polite world" of employment, etc., would not tolerate those behavioral patterns... this would be where the argument for Churches in communities is made.
But since "Affluenza" (being so wealthy and privileged that you can't mentally make moral choices)" was successfully used as a legal defense in getting that rich kid who killed people with drunk driving found not guilty, it seems the same "nothing to lose" thing is also a problem on the other end.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:03 pm to cypher
FIRMS shows they hit targets, 4 separate at the airport, including fuel storage and plane parking areas.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:14 pm to Lima Whiskey
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This a war of attrition, and the side that can inflict larger sustained losses on the other side, while minimizing their own, will win.
That's not who wins wars of attrition. It's not about body counts. It's about industrial production, logistics, and political will.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:18 pm to No Colors
The other army is what you're trying to destroy, the industrial production is a means to that end.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:32 pm to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:34 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The offensive of the Russian Armed Forces in the north of the Kharkov region is aimed at cutting off the supply of the Kupyansk group.
The enemy's advance near Volchansk creates an acute tactical problem regarding the supply of Kupyansk. However, it can develop into a strategic problem. The offensive here is already proceeding in two directions: towards Kharkov and along the Seversky Donets River.
The attack on the village of Glubokoe is connected with the plans of the Russian Armed Forces to advance to Kharkov to fire at the Ukrainian Armed Forces group located there with cannon artillery. For this purpose, the Russians intend to capture the village of Liptsy and strengthen their positions there, which will make it possible to pin down the main forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces located in Kharkov.
At the same time, another part of the Kharkov group of the Russian Armed Forces, which is storming the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Volchansk and Staritsa, will continue to expand the bridgehead along the Seversky Donets River and move in the direction of Getmanovka and Shevchenkovo ??in order to cut off the supply of the Kupyansk group. Natural geography - r. The Seversky Donets and air and artillery escort will cover the right flank of the Russians, at the same time the bridges along the river will be destroyed, and the threat of an attack on Kharkov (from Lipitsa) will not allow Ukrainian units to leave the city.
At the same time, it is impossible to transfer serious reserves of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to stop enemy forces. Firstly, there is a lack of fortifications, and they will not have time to build them quickly. And secondly, there is a lack of people (“no reserves”). And neither the West is yet ready to help solve this problem, nor Ukraine itself can solve it.
The enemy’s tactics of “thousands of small cuts” are bleeding the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The Russians are striking in many directions at once, stretching and depleting Ukrainian reserves. After which, in one place or another, the Russians break through the defense. And in the same way, the Russians will make a breakthrough to Getmanovka and Shevchenkovo ??in order to cut the N-26 highway and begin to reach the rear of the Kupyanskaya group. Simultaneously with the approach to populated areas, the Russian Armed Forces will intensify the pressure in the Kupyansk direction in order to cut off the supply routes for the Ukrainian Armed Forces units there.
https://t.me/the_military_analytics/18356
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:41 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The other army is what you're trying to destroy, the industrial production is a means to that end.
One side has problems manufacturing things that anyone will buy outside its borders. The other side is supply by nations which exports high quality finished goods
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:03 pm to No Colors
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That's not who wins wars of attrition. It's not about body counts. It's about industrial production, logistics, and political will.
True. And I think the west has underestimated how important this is to Russia.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:11 pm to SloaneRanger
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True. And I think the west has underestimated how important this is to Russia.
Have you ever even seen anything for sale made in Russia other than nesting dolls? They abandon their trucks on the roadsides regardless of how old, because not worth repairing. So they are going to convert manufacturing which makes pieces of shite to making more weapons? Lots of luck with Drunkle Igor being productive and producing quality
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:12 pm to SloaneRanger
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And I think the west has underestimated how important this is to Russia.
Which is weird because we have records of our experts telling us how important it is
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:21 pm to CitizenK
Well their Kalashnikov rifles are pretty popular around the world. Had some pretty good vodka from there also. Can't speak to anything else though
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:24 pm to No Colors
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That's not who wins wars of attrition. It's not about body counts. It's about industrial production, logistics, and political will.
This is the key... and this is what Putin is going all in and telling the world to watch. Again, his thing is "Autocracies are stronger, Democracies are weak," which he somehow pushes while pretending to be a Democratically-elected leader.
And... that's why all of the "Russia is obviously winning" stuff, to me, doesn't matter... if the collective West decides "there's no fricking way we're letting Putin win" he will be stopped. Just like Hitler was stopped, and Hitler was much stronger and had an infinitely superior military to Putin. Yes, the Russians did play a vital part in defeating Hitler, and they did that by sacrificing the lives of 20,000,000 peasant soldiers, but they were on the defense and the cause was much more inspiring to the peasants, and the Lend-Lease assistance they got from the US cannot be overlooked, either... even before we entered the War.
I wonder if a lot of the tepid-seeming approaches the US and West seem to take in this is somewhat due to the "if Putin falls immediately, what happens to the over 5,600 nukes scattered across 14 time zones?" thing?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:24 pm to CitizenK
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This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:30 pm to PureBlood
The fact that we know about the lies of the past actually decreases the possibility of lies in the present and the future... if you try to find the truth.
There was plenty of proof that the "Weapons of Mas Destruction" thing in Iraq was overstated, if not entirely false... people just did not want to bother with disagreeing... the few who did (Ambassador Wilson) got made examples of...
There was plenty of proof that the "Weapons of Mas Destruction" thing in Iraq was overstated, if not entirely false... people just did not want to bother with disagreeing... the few who did (Ambassador Wilson) got made examples of...
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:37 pm to Lee B
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"Russia is obviously winning" stuff, to me, doesn't matter... if the collective West decides "there's no fricking way we're letting Putin win" he will be stopped
Obviously if we decide all options are on the table they lose. The question is "is Ukraine worth it?" and the answer is "no". It always was no and always will be no.
So then the question becomes "Can we bankroll Ukraine into winning the war since we won't fight it?". I think if we choose to decimate our own stocks and the stocks of our allies we can. Can we do it in a responsible way? Not sure.
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I wonder if a lot of the tepid-seeming approaches the US and West seem to take in this is somewhat due to the "if Putin falls immediately, what happens to the over 5,600 nukes scattered across 14 time zones?" thing?
If the problem ended with Putin, or if his death wouldn't create more problems, it would have happened already.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:48 pm to ticklechain
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Well their Kalashnikov rifles are pretty popular around the world. Had some pretty good vodka from there also. Can't speak to anything else though
AK's were just rugged not accurate and made in Eastern European nations. Stoli is made in Europe now, not Russia. All they have left is rot gut stuff.
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