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.38 SUPER....thoughts?

Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:31 pm
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:31 pm
I have really taken to this round. I sold my Colt 38super because it was too nice...engraving, inlay etc... I have picked up a pristine Colt .38super 1911 Government Issue model. Why did this round not catch on? It is a 9mm bullet on steroids.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
1733 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:20 pm to
Good question. If they would have called it the 9 MAG, it would have ended up in every household. It had to be marketing error?
Posted by ray40049
Member since Jun 2009
31 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:34 pm to
Wasn’t very accurate when introduced due to method of head spacing. I have a Sig 220 in .38 super that I love. It is accurate as are most newer pistols chambered for the round that space off the case mouth instead of the semi-rim.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Old0331
EBR
Member since Feb 2022
22 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:04 pm to
Excellent round. I stopped carrying my .45s and switched to carrying my .38 Super when I moved to EBR because I get 1-2 more rounds per magazine and less muzzle flip. Failure to stop drills are faster with the center mass hits closer together.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

marketing error?


Probably a big part of it.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25124 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 5:30 pm to
The .38 super was developed in 1929.

People wanted the .45 AP or revolvers back then.

Had nothing to do with marketing.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30564 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 7:51 pm to
Wonder how the .30 Super Carry will do.

The marketing has been here retry good.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27507 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

.30 Super Carry


The answer to a question that no one asked.
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

The .38 super was developed in 1929.

People wanted the .45 AP


Good point. In those days bullets sucked. Diameter and momentum is what worked, or a wholeeeee lot of speed. The 38 super has neither.

Id argue that bullets weren't REALLY good till the HST showed up. That and the FBI standards pretty much sealed the fate for everything except 9mm
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:42 pm to
.38 Super is / was popular in Mexico because citizens there are barred from owning a .45.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2469 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:25 am to
It's probably because a standard 9mm can be just as effective with less recoil. A lot of open shooters still use 38 super in competition. It's really expensive ammo though. Just the brass is like .15c/round.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10718 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:21 am to
quote:

my Colt 38super because it was too nice...engraving, inlay etc.


Do you belong to a cartel? They love those.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20591 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

.38 Super is / was popular in Mexico because citizens there are barred from owning a .45.


Do they actually care? Follow it? Enforce it?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Do they actually care? Follow it? Enforce it?


Mexico doesn’t have a history of being lenient on gun law infractions.

I think the law is that civilians can’t own military calibers.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3938 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:12 pm to
Not to high jack your thread but does anyone have a suggestion on an inexpensive but reliable 38 super gun? Would prefer not to spend 1k on a colt.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25124 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:46 am to
quote:

Not to high jack your thread but does anyone have a suggestion on an inexpensive but reliable 38 super gun? Would prefer not to spend 1k on a colt.


I think Rock Island Armory has some 1911s cambered in .38 super.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3938 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 12:12 am to
Is it a solid gun?
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6825 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:21 pm to
According to a Gun Genie, Colt, Rock Island and American Classic/Metro Arms are currently the only non-custom makers of a handgun chambered in 38 Super, but none are in stock. All are 1911's. Taurus used to make one, I believe.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6825 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 7:36 pm to
quote:

Is it a solid gun?

Although I don't have an RIA, I do have a Citadel 1911 Officer's model. Citadel guns are made in The Philippines by Armscor. Armscor also makes RIA. My Citadel has been a good gun. RIA guns generally get good reviews.
Posted by Katrina Anon
Member since Mar 2022
31 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:45 am to
The modern .38 Super is a good solid round. It was popular during the Bonnie and Clyde era and was quite good in its day.

Metallugy was not all that great then which contributed to its weaknesses. However, there are other good rounds out there than in the modern era are exceptional such as 9mm Largo (9x23).

But the limiting factor today is finding .38 super at the store. I was about to switch over 9mm Para because they are effective but when the drought hit, 45 ACP was far easier to find then 9mm.

38 Super has the problem of using small pistol primers which means your 38 Super ammo is hard to find, like 357 Magnum, or my favorite 7x25 Tokarev.

While I think 38 Super is a good round unless I had a good source for the ammo, I would stick with either a 9mm or 45ACP. 38 Super was mostly a police round back in the Bonnie and Clyde days.
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