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re: Social Security benefits to jump by 8.7% next year, highest in 40 years

Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:46 pm to
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8781 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:46 pm to
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A person making $50,000/year will average $6,0000 per year into SS. Let’s say the person works for 45 years, that’s $270,000 total paid in and they would be paid back in 22.5 years. Meaning when they turned about 90 if I did my math right.



And this doesn't take into account market gains had they invested that amount on their own. It would be over $1 million.

Obviously, not everyone is responsible enough to save and invest, which is why SS exists in the first place. I wish people had the option to opt out of paying into/receiving SS.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
2781 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 1:49 pm to
Most millennials around me seem like Lazy Fucs but, whatever they call the next group of youngsters, they are the worse ! Maybe I am judging from my own children but it’s like they think they are Entitled to “ All “ !
Posted by Flglenn
Member since Aug 2021
26 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:23 pm to
There have been millions of people who died before they were Social Security eligible. They paid all their working life's and never drew a penny. Where do you suppose all that money went? Widows could claim some when they became the proper age. The government has kept billions of this money.
Posted by Flglenn
Member since Aug 2021
26 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:24 pm to
There have been millions of people who died before they were Social Security eligible. They paid all their working life's and never drew a penny. Where do you suppose all that money went? Widows could claim some when they became the proper age. The government has kept billions of this money.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:48 pm to

Is it a socialist program that never should exist?


Except it’s not a socialistic program.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:51 pm to
Which is in effect because of democrats.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56163 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 6:38 pm to
The consumer price index rose 8.1% over the last year…so folks that live off social security are still losing purchasing power.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1723 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:32 pm to
BullS****.. for years I paid into social security, which was taken out of each and every paycheck. Sorry, but that money is mine!
I am guessing that most people bitching about people getting social security benefits own their own small company and have found ways to never pay into social security taxes.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19492 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:37 pm to
Brandon's inflation is about 8% so if you don't keep up you are losing money.



Pluss you wouldn't want a bunch people who do nothing all day to have less purchasing power
Posted by JR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2005
1220 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:38 pm to
Thanks for posting this, it has proven to me my belief that the younger generation is absolutely clueless on how the US SS and Medicare system works.

They want to batch when people who worked and paid into the system for over 40 years get an increase to keep up with inflation, but demand $15 minimum wage and demand the LOANS they chose to take be repaid by those getting this increase.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:39 pm to
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The government has kept billions of this money.


Because social security is not a gauranteed benefit

The government has also taken money out of it for use in other areas

It is a welfare program. That is not gauranteed. It is a tax at the end of the day. A tax they are kindly letting some people have back in some form.

Where did the billions go? General funds.

Who has voted for this system the most?

Boomers

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65974 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:42 pm to

I called to check my zip code.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14508 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:44 pm to
Looks like our potato head president is trying to make sure his Dems gets the older votes for Nov Elections but i have no problem with the ones who paid into the system getting it. It is needed with prices shooting thru the roof on everything.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 7:47 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:07 pm to
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They want to batch when people who worked and paid into the system for over 40 years get an increase to keep up with inflation, but demand $15 minimum wage and demand the LOANS they chose to take be repaid by those getting this increase.


Well in my case, I want to keep the money I earned and spend or save it as I see fit and not get shite from the government (not that I ever have/will anyway).
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1723 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:08 pm to
You do realize that the COLA increase formulas have been in place for at least 45 years, and that no president (absent new laws) can directly affect how much the yearly increase is?
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1723 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:13 pm to
"Best way to fight inflation is to hand out more money. Thank you Mr. President!"
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Aint' no fan of Biden, but presidents have no control over the COLA increase calculations. To change the COLA increases, new laws must be passed. Soc. Sec. monthly benefits went up under Trump, as well, but not nearly as much.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1723 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:16 pm to
The minimum is $31.85 per month, and the max is a little over $4,000. Up until the $4,000 max, it is all calculated by how much an individual puts in.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
1723 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:24 pm to
"This means the rate at which we are taxed and pay into this is also going to go up. So it's a raise for some, and a paycut for the rest of us."
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.. not really, the rate that you are taxed for social security does not have a fluid adjustment. It is still a tax, and can only be changed through the legislative process. An individual pays 6.2% out of their paycheck, and the employer pays the same- 6.2%, a total of 12.4%.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63382 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:29 pm to
My rate goes up every year.
Posted by dchog
Pea ridge
Member since Nov 2012
21484 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:39 pm to
About the time they hit retirement age, social security will be gone.
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