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re: Explain to me the harm of ‘adderall’
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:23 pm to GulfCoastPoke
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:23 pm to GulfCoastPoke
quote:This is exactly right. I took it every day all through high school. I stopped in college and my grades showed. Went back on to get through school and stopped when I started working. I now have to take it at least twice a week because my focus level is about 3/10 when I'm not on it. I have become completely dependent to function in the corporate world. My advice would be never take it.
Elevated heart rate, changes how you socialize and interact with coworkers (you will have little patience for small talk and probably meetings), no appetite for 6-8 hours until you ‘crash’, so expect weight loss from unhealthy method, your brain will come dependent on it. As someone who got tested for adhd and took it fresh/soph year of school…please don’t go down this path.
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Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:23 pm to BabyTac
Get tested to see if you even have attention deficit as an adult. Sleep apnea and General anxiety or crappy sleep are way more common reasons to not be able to focus. If you have been successful in school. And life try to avoid asking the doctor for this stimulant. If it elevates your BP or races your heart - this is not good. This list is from epocrates and would be a summary of the package insert from the manufacturer.
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Black Box Warnings
High Abuse Potential, Dependency
high abuse potential; avoid prolonged tx, may lead
to drug dependence; potential for non-therapeutic
use or distribution to others; prescribe/dispense
sparingly; serious cardiovascular adverse events
and sudden death reported w/ misuse
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Contraindications/Cautions
• hypersens. to drug/class/compon.
• MAO inhibitor use w/in 14 days
• pregnancy
• breastfeeding
• eGFR <15 (ER cap form)
• cardiovascular dz, severe
• cardiac structural abnormality
• cardiomyopathy
• arrhythmia, severe
• CAD
• abrupt withdrawal (prolonged high-dose use)
• caution: eGFR 15-30 (ER cap form)
• caution: cardiovascular dz
• caution: cardiovascular dz hx
• caution: HTN
caution: hyperthyroidism
• caution: glaucoma
• caution: psychosis
• caution: bipolar disorder
• caution: bipolar disorder risk
caution: Tourette syndrome
• caution: Tourette tics
• caution: seizure hx
caution: seizure risk
• caution: substance abuse
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Adverse Reactions
Serious Reactions
dependency
• abuse
• psychosis
mania
• aggressive behavior
• sudden death
• MI
• stroke
• HTN
• cardiomyopathy (long-term use)
• seizures
• hypersensitivity rxn
• anaphylaxis
Stevens-Johnson syndrome
• toxic epidermal necrolysis
• priapism
• peripheral vasculopathy
• Raynaud phenomenon
• growth suppression (long-term use in peds pts)
rhabdomyolysis
• intestinal ischemia
withdrawal sx if abrupt D/C (prolonged high-dose
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Adverse Reactions
Common Reactions
• anorexia
xerostomia
• insomnia
• headache
• abdominal pain
weight loss
• emotional lability
• anxiety
nausea
vomiting
• agitation
• dizziness
• nervousness
• diarrhea
• tachycardia
• fatigue
• asthenia
• fever
• infection
• dyspepsia
• constipation
• libido changes
somnolence
• speech disturbance
• tic exacerbation
• dyspnea
diaphoresis
• dysmenorrhea
• impotence
palpitations
• BP elevated
visual disturbance
• restlessness
• tooth disorder
• photosensitivity
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Black Box Warnings
High Abuse Potential, Dependency
high abuse potential; avoid prolonged tx, may lead
to drug dependence; potential for non-therapeutic
use or distribution to others; prescribe/dispense
sparingly; serious cardiovascular adverse events
and sudden death reported w/ misuse
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Contraindications/Cautions
• hypersens. to drug/class/compon.
• MAO inhibitor use w/in 14 days
• pregnancy
• breastfeeding
• eGFR <15 (ER cap form)
• cardiovascular dz, severe
• cardiac structural abnormality
• cardiomyopathy
• arrhythmia, severe
• CAD
• abrupt withdrawal (prolonged high-dose use)
• caution: eGFR 15-30 (ER cap form)
• caution: cardiovascular dz
• caution: cardiovascular dz hx
• caution: HTN
caution: hyperthyroidism
• caution: glaucoma
• caution: psychosis
• caution: bipolar disorder
• caution: bipolar disorder risk
caution: Tourette syndrome
• caution: Tourette tics
• caution: seizure hx
caution: seizure risk
• caution: substance abuse
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Adverse Reactions
Serious Reactions
dependency
• abuse
• psychosis
mania
• aggressive behavior
• sudden death
• MI
• stroke
• HTN
• cardiomyopathy (long-term use)
• seizures
• hypersensitivity rxn
• anaphylaxis
Stevens-Johnson syndrome
• toxic epidermal necrolysis
• priapism
• peripheral vasculopathy
• Raynaud phenomenon
• growth suppression (long-term use in peds pts)
rhabdomyolysis
• intestinal ischemia
withdrawal sx if abrupt D/C (prolonged high-dose
dextroamphetamine/amphetamine
Adverse Reactions
Common Reactions
• anorexia
xerostomia
• insomnia
• headache
• abdominal pain
weight loss
• emotional lability
• anxiety
nausea
vomiting
• agitation
• dizziness
• nervousness
• diarrhea
• tachycardia
• fatigue
• asthenia
• fever
• infection
• dyspepsia
• constipation
• libido changes
somnolence
• speech disturbance
• tic exacerbation
• dyspnea
diaphoresis
• dysmenorrhea
• impotence
palpitations
• BP elevated
visual disturbance
• restlessness
• tooth disorder
• photosensitivity
Posted on 10/24/22 at 5:26 pm to BabyTac
It can impact growth rates in children.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 6:34 pm to pelicanpride
quote:
As someone who easily quit it cold turkey, I really don’t understand comments like this.
You don’t understand someone’s personal life experience? Shocking.
Any other insightful advice?
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:46 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
I took it every day all through high school. I stopped in college and my grades showed. Went back on to get through school and stopped when I started working. I now have to take it at least twice a week because my focus level is about 3/10 when I'm not on it
I keep seeing people say this and conclude that it was the long term adderal use that “screwed up their focus/brain” and “made them dependent on it”. Did you ever think that maybe you just aren’t naturally sharp, and the adderal is doing its job? Maybe what you feel when you stop taking it is just what your normal brain is like, regardless of any previous adderal use
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:07 pm to BabyTac
The harm comes from 87k more IRS agents after they adderall up they hit you with fines and penalties
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:25 pm to Dragula
quote:
Seems like a Superman pill that really gives people an edge from anywhere from the workplace to sports, etc.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 8:56 pm to StrongOffer
quote:
I have become completely dependent to function in the corporate world. My advice would be never take it.
Maybe you are a person who actually needs ADHD medicine, and that’s why you feel dependent. Or maybe your job is a poor fit for you. When I quit taking it, I was working 70 - 80 hour weeks in consulting and continued to maintain that pace after stopping. If you have enough pressure in your job, you will continue to produce because of the anxiety/adrenaline. Some of the tedious aspects of my job seemed less interesting, but I got the work done because of the stress. I hated my job before stopping adderall, and I hated it even more after stopping. But adderall wasn’t the problem. My job was.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 9:07 pm to bulltiger91
quote:
You don’t understand someone’s personal life experience? Shocking. Any other insightful advice?
I wasn’t trying to be a dick. Sorry if it came across that way. If you truly want to stop, I just don’t understand why you don’t fill your prescription for the month and immediately throw it away, so you don’t have access to it anymore. Or just call your doctor and tell him not to prescribe it anymore. That will lock in the decision for you. It’s scary, but just do it. I get exactly how you feel. After using the maximum dose for 7 years, I convinced myself I was addicted. I would get depressed about it. But when I had to choose either having kids or quitting adderall, that forced me to make a decision. I was completely shocked how easy it was to quit compared to the monster I had created in my own mind. Just take the leap and throw the shite out if it makes you unhappy.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:31 pm to BabyTac
You’re in your 40s. An amphetamine has a decent chance of being your demise. The cardiovascular effects alone are enough to make a normal educated person avoid it.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 10:41 pm to p0845330
Sound like y'all discovered a magic pill and just don't want the rest of us to get in on your riches.
Posted on 10/24/22 at 11:05 pm to p0845330
quote:
You’re in your 40s. An amphetamine has a decent chance of being your demise. The cardiovascular effects alone are enough to make a normal educated person avoid it.
What a load of codswallop. If you don't have a history of cardiovascular issues or aren't contraindicated in any other way, you'll be fine. Look up the contraindication list online (someone actually posted it on this very page but verify everything) or talk to a physician, which is something you should be doing with virtually every medication you take anyway.
The amount of crap advice and misinformation in this thread is pretty astonishing.
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 6:37 am
Posted on 10/24/22 at 11:06 pm to shutterspeed
quote:
Sound like y'all discovered a magic pill and just don't want the rest of us to get in on your riches.
This is starting to sound more plausible than half of these people being misinformed and willfully propagating bad info.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:26 am to CP3
quote:Because I remember how I functioned before ever taking it. I was a straight A student who just needed a kick in the pants to sit down and study. When I was originally tested, I was borderline ADD. I bet if I tested now, it would be off the charts. There's no doubt I became more dependent and it negatively affected me after taking adderall long term.
I keep seeing people say this and conclude that it was the long term adderal use that “screwed up their focus/brain” and “made them dependent on it”. Did you ever think that maybe you just aren’t naturally sharp, and the adderal is doing its job? Maybe what you feel when you stop taking it is just what your normal brain is like, regardless of any previous adderal use
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:46 am to BabyTac
Bc it’s meth in pill form. But doctors prescribe it and ppl think it’s all good.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 10:57 am to BabyTac
quote:
First off, I’m 45 years old and have never taken this drug or anything like it. Got thru engineering school and have a successful career.
So, what is driving you to explore getting artificial help now?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:09 am to BabyTac
So let me get this straight:
Pros - ability to work/study more efficiently
Cons - impotence, constant diarrhea, can’t sleep without a downer, cant function normally without it
Sounds fantastic
Pros - ability to work/study more efficiently
Cons - impotence, constant diarrhea, can’t sleep without a downer, cant function normally without it
Sounds fantastic
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:25 am to BabyTac
It’s bae-fuel. It makes your ladies get super fit and then you run the risk of them catching other dicks.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 11:26 am to Festus
Withdrawals from amphetamine salts are mild at worst. Your friend has other issues going on.
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