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re: What's your favorite military plane ?

Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:45 pm to
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ou mentioned others not so lucky but they only made a small set amount of D’s and could only outfit 2 squadrons. Was this in future years these happened? VF-11 is only one who lost one during the 94 cruise (which was first D cruise). I also know VF-31 lost 2 D jets in late 94 or early 95 (all 4 recovered) off San Diego. I believe that one was pilot error as both one was trying to take pics of the other inverted and clipped em and both splashed in Pacific Ocean.



I counted 9 squadrons that had D's. VF-2, -11, -31, -101, -124, -213, VX-4, VX-9, VX-23 (Spent some time with them at Pax), NMC/PMTC, VX-30. Am I wrong?
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:02 pm to
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I counted 9 squadrons that had D's. VF-2, -11, -31, -101, -124, -213, VX-4, VX-9, VX-23 (Spent some time with them at Pax), NMC/PMTC, VX-30. Am I wrong?


Most of those are RAG or testing squadrons and had a few. But they only made enough to outfit 2 full deployable squadrons. I think at some point they transferred VF-11 D’s to another squadron while VF-31 kept their’s (due to changing ships).
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:35 pm to
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Maybe a Kettenkrad?


That’s what I was leaning towards.


I appreciate your input.
Prost
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:38 pm to
That jolly Roger tomcat is such a badass bird
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:41 pm to


MiG25

Why?

Because we really didn't understand what it was and it caused us to make other special things
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 8:54 pm to
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the F-14 was an older jet, so I’d say the digital vs Analog was a much bigger problem.


Didn’t they create a “Super Tomcat” that was updated to digital but it was too late since they had already poured resources into the Hornet?
Posted by EZVictor
Member since Dec 2020
19 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:00 pm to
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The “D” engines were so powerful they couldn’t use full afterburner at takeoff else would basically melt JBD.  
There was no limit on using GE110 afterburner on the JBD’s, we couldn’t “Melt” the JBD with the engines, we just didn’t need to go to afterburner, because the engines at military thrust provided enough power to safely takeoff and we didn’t want to waste fuel (you use 2000 lbs a minute in afterburner, we carried 20,000 lbs of fuel, so in afterburner you had 10 minutes of fuel before you crashed from dry tanks!).
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You mentioned others not so lucky but they only made a small set amount of D’s and could only outfit 2 squadrons. Was this in future years these happened? VF-11 is only one who lost one during the 94 cruise (which was first D cruise). I also know VF-31 lost 2 D jets in late 94 or early 95 (all 4 recovered) off San Diego. I believe that one was pilot error as both one was trying to take pics of the other inverted and clipped em and both splashed in Pacific Ocean.

Don’t remember how many squadrons eventually ended up with the F14Ds, but it doesn’t really matter when discussing the afterburner blow through situation since, from 1987 onward, the Bs were being reconfigured from the old Pratt & Whitney engines to the same GE110 engines that the new F-14D’s being made from the Grumman factory had. So, by the late 90’s, all F-14s had the GE110 engines which were experiencing the blow-through problem.  All the Squadrons experienced (or knew about) afterburner blow-thru as a possible result of going to afterburner. GE was apparently aware of some kind of faulty engine situation as early as 1990, since they started having Grumman carry out inspections on the burner cans & nacelles. 

Here’s an interesting story about an afterburner blow-through incident that happened after Grumman transitioned to the GE110 engine. I had just finished my first 1000 hours as a RAG instructor and was leaving the flight-line heading back toward the squadron hangar. As I entered the building, another instructor I knew slightly was exiting to go man up his jet for a training sortie. We briefly exchanged greetings and in passing I mentioned that I had just completed my first 1000 hours. At which point he reached up and plucked off his own 1000 hour patch from his flightsuit and handed it to me, cheerfully saying “Here, take my patch - I’ll hit 2000 hours next week anyway, and it’s always been lucky for me!”. I thanked him then headed upstairs to debrief. About 45 minutes later the ready room began to buzz with the news that an F14 had just blown up in flight 20 miles away. Turns out it was the plane of the guy who had just given me his 1000 hour patch - LCDR Fred Dillingham. I wore his “lucky” patch the rest of my navy flying career.  I was a RIO my first 4 years in the Navy and a pilot my last 19 years.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:03 pm to
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wore his “lucky” patch the rest of my navy flying career


Legit cool story bro
Posted by IIxxBREADxxII
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
9741 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:05 pm to
In no particular order

SR-71
F-14
F-15
F-16
F-18
F-117 Stealth Fighter
Harrier
C-130
B1 Bomber
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6179 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:58 am to
P-40
P-51
B-17
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
2947 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:40 am to
Yep, C 130s because my son and daughter-in-law flies them.

The E 3 is next because the other son flies those.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 5:42 am
Posted by EZVictor
Member since Dec 2020
19 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:20 am to
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Didn’t they create a “Super Tomcat” that was updated to digital but it was too late since they had already poured resources into the Hornet?
Correct, they were developing a Super Tomcat on paper, but didn’t have the funding due to the Hornet costs. They brought a F-15E (two seat F-15) to our hangar and parked it next to an F-14B, we climbed all around the F-15E, they said they could put all the latest technology that was in the F-15E into a new Tomcat , it would look roughly the same, (a little slicker) and have all the lastest technology. That F-15E was quite a jump in technology from the F-14 we flew. It also had a 22 degree wrap around HUD, it was set up with NVG lighting, (we had to turn all cockpit lights off to use our Night Vision Goggles). All the switches in the front and back cockpits were forward of your mid thigh, the tomcat RIO had 350 circuit breakers behind him and the pilot had 22 circuit breaker near his ankles. At night with no lights (due to an emergency), cycling the correct CB was tricky! So yes, they did start developing the Super Tomcat, and also yes, they couldn’t get the funding - the F-18 was cheaper and the threat that would require them to spend more $ to produce it wasn’t there.
Posted by AlumneyeJ93
Member since Apr 2022
655 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:43 am to
Not a fan of MSN or know anything about this plane but I thought the shockwave info was interesting. F35C.

"Sidewinder route has been the backdrop to one of the unit’s more intriguing test jets, another F-35C coated with a mirror-like skin"



LINK
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 9:10 am
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5542 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:59 am to
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Jim Rockford

de Havilland Mosquito.

Concur. Remarkable and exceptionally versatile aircraft.
Driving from BR to in-laws in LC simply by chance saw one in front of me descending over I-10 going to land at a small airstrip in Jennings. Image NOT Jennings aircraft!
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