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re: Mike Johnson Killing the HB 813 Bill

Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:32 pm to
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7857 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:32 pm to
I'm pretty conservative on most matters but on abortion I'm pro-choice. Call me what you will but that's how I feel about it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41829 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:48 pm to
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Because the other side will gain the power to codify roe v wade and it will be far worse than the present state. Your "all or nothing" attitude is very dangerous.
That's not much of a worry. It's already moving in that direction. If Republicans can't highlight their "pro-life" stance, and if they are going to be voted out for voting against less restrictive abortion laws, then it's only a matter of time that a representative will have to vote for federal laws codifying RvW or risk not being re-elected.

So like I said, they are just delaying the inevitable by refusing to fight against this. If the GOP isn't willing to step up the fight in the culture war against abortion, abortion will be legalized federally in the not too distant future.

What's dangerous is letting the slow decline in the moral fabric of our nation happen by pretending it doesn't matter or it's not worth votes.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 12:34 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41829 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:52 pm to
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How are you betraying your principles?
By voting for men and women who go silent on the issue, or outright go with the progressives on the issue because they don't want to deal with it, I would be violating my Christian principles. I cannot support those who refuse to at least make their stance known and vote accordingly. It's cowardice to say nothing and it's immoral to vote for less restrictions on abortion.

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How has abortion ever affected you in your life?
Other than the spiritual and emotional damage it takes on the nation that I live in, it doesn't effect me.

Why do you think an issue must personally effect me in some way for it to be important? There were people fighting against slavery that actually benefited from its existence. Objective morality isn't based on pragmatism.
This post was edited on 12/2/23 at 12:35 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14522 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Two weeks ago the House passed HB 813 to abolish abortion in the state of Louisiana.


Weird, here I am thinking it was already banned in Louisiana.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120586 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 2:56 pm to
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Regardless of how you personally feel about it, the American public has expressed that they feel differently on abortion.


Abortion should be a referendum next election in every state

Every voter would have to consciously vote yes or no on legal abortion

Will be quite the conundrum for many
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 2:57 pm
Posted by 2014Tigers
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2014
1066 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:02 pm to
Speaker of the house Mike Johnson. I should’ve said responsible for pushing the hardest to kill the bill
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80480 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:05 pm to
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Abortion should be a referendum next election in every state

Every voter would have to consciously vote yes or no on legal abortion

Will be quite the conundrum for many




Not much of a conundrum if we look at Ohio most recently. It passed fairly easy.
Posted by 2014Tigers
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2014
1066 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:05 pm to
Thank you for explaining it better than I can. I’m trying though lol
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64792 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:11 pm to
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Two weeks ago the House passed HB 813 to abolish abortion in the state of Louisiana


This is a bad stance period. I have a massive disdain for extremism.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12993 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:14 pm to
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It does no one any benefit to make an unelectable issue a core part of your platform


So the 2020 election and J6 should be avoided at all costs?
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6179 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 3:50 pm to
How did Mike Johnson kill a bill in the LA House?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120586 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Not much of a conundrum if we look at Ohio most recently. It passed fairly easy.


Fine with me. Those yes voters better hope there is no God
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80480 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:03 pm to
Ok, Pascal
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9669 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:06 pm to
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If Republicans can't highlight their "pro-life" stance


Not all Republicans are Pro-Life.

And if you're trying to push out the Pro Lifers, fine. Have fun losing every election ever.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46560 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Maybe this brave new world is a bit much for you. Perhaps you should consider a monastery.


Brave new world? How about debauched and morally bankrupt world?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9669 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:10 pm to
If you're scared, say you're scared.

Evangelicals should by theory be the most joyful and peaceful people on the planet yet they seem to be some of the most clutching your pearls scaredy cats I've ever seen. You're going to heaven so don't worry about us heathens, you're spoken for.

And why do you hate God's will? He gave mankind the Free Will to make choices and laws but Christians want to make everyone live according to their laws and fears.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46560 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:21 pm to
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If you're scared, say you're scared.



Scared?

I'm disgusted that so many people not only tolerate the cultural Marxist debauchery and societal decay, they embrace it.

Are you that guy, El Segundo Guy?
Posted by TigerEyeGuy
Member since Jan 2023
428 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:25 pm to
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Republicans want to tie their success


Republicans? Success? What are you talking about
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:26 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:43 pm
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9669 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 4:33 pm to
There's a lot of stuff that happens every single day that I don't "like but yet I seem to "tolerate" things quite well.
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