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re: U.S. economy added 353,000 jobs in January

Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67237 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:20 pm to
Used cars, particularly sedans, are MORE than double what the were 10 years ago.

New cars are up significantly, but not double across the board.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:24 pm to
You're lying again
Posted by bostitch
Member since Apr 2016
561 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Stock market at all time highs just on the back of liberals?


Stock market is at an all time high for a lot of reasons, not just trannies and baristas
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67237 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:33 pm to
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You're lying again


I literally just priced used cars two weeks ago. No, I’m not. I couldn’t even find a running beater for under $6k. I used to be able to find them for under $2k.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85400 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Yeah, but usually it’s a negligible difference, not “cheap” food staples tripling in price in just 3 years.


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The same cheap deli meat that was routinely available for 3.99/lb and frequently $2.99/lb on sale is now $8.99-9.99/lb. Pork shoulder which was $.99/lb is now $2.99/lb


Bacon from Kroger on 1/4/21 $15.99/3lbs



Bacon from Kroger today:




Sale price is higher by 7%. Regular price is higher by 6%. BLS days bacon per pound is up 16% over that time frame.

But KingBob says pork shoulder has tripled. Hmm…

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35606 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:57 pm to
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Used cars, particularly sedans, are MORE than double what the were 10 years ago.


Post some examples?


Used cars dropped in price every single month in 2023.


Not just YoY in the aggregate, but 12 straight months of drops.

Going back to 2022 we have had 15 straight months of used car prices dropping.



Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42183 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:57 pm to
And millions of illegals
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:05 pm to
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I literally just priced used cars two weeks ago. No, I’m not. I couldn’t even find a running beater for under $6k. I used to be able to find them for under $2k.



Jfc, when I am talking about cars and even used cars, I am not talking about trying to find a beater for 2k that you leave in the ghetto and they dont even try and steal it.

Used car prices took a big 50% jump on average in 2021 and some of 2022. Other years they havent and even went down almost 20% since then. New car prices havent done anything like you originally said.

2024 Honda Accord MSRP: From $27,895
2014 Honda Accord MSRP: From $25,335
Just checked cars.com and you can get that 2014 Accord for 16k in BR.

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Pork shoulder which was $.99/lb is now $2.99/lb


This is another dishonest statement. Pork shoulder at 99 cents a pound was only on sales. It was never that regular price a few years ago. They still run that sale.

Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5763 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:06 pm to
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BLS themselves told us last month that data from Jan '24 and later months are NOT directly comparable to prior months b/c of methodology changes

the number of people missing from the labor force remains stubbornly high, artificially reducing the unemployment rate

Depending on which methodology you prefer, you can calculate a more realistic unemployment rate that accounts for all of these missing workers: somewhere btwn 6.3% and 7.4% - that's not horrific, but significantly higher than "official" 3.7%

part-time has trended upward fairly consistently while full-time has leveled off; economy has lost ~1.6 million full-time jobs since Jun '23 and replaced them w/ ~1.6 million part-time jobs, which helps explain the next red flag.

Weekly hours are plummeting, now down to lowest level since covid lockdowns; aside from abnormalities of '20, it's at the lowest level since the Great Recession w/ housing meltdown and global financial crisis; firms are cutting hours and replacing full-time jobs w/ part-time:

As people work fewer hours, their paychecks buy less, even w/ hourly raises, b/c prices are still rising faster than weekly earnings; significantly higher hourly wages still leave workers behind - about 4.3% behind Jan '21

Interesting to note who has the jobs: they've all gone to foreign-born workers; not only are native-born workers way below their pre-pandemic trend, but they're even below the pre-pandemic level (Jan '24 vs. Jan '20):

TLDR: economy is still adding jobs, but they're overwhelmingly lower pay, fewer hours, and either directly or indirectly paid by gov't; also, Fed will need to look for a different excuse to cut rates and end QT - another banking crisis would fit the bill perfectly



https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/02/02/antoni-jobs-report-thread-n2392475
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11805 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:12 pm to
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COVID-19 pandemic destroyed 22M jobs and many aren’t coming back: OECD
LINK
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9523 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:24 pm to
11 months from now we will be back to 2019 in some areas. Some will never go back.

5 years to get back to where we were.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35606 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:42 pm to
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LINK


Did you even read your link?
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