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LIV officially removes request for OWGR points
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:08 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 7:08 am
Greg Norman says in a letter obtained by Bob Harig of SI:
“a resolution which protects the accuracy, credibility and integrity of the OWGR rankings no longer exists. “We have made significant efforts to fight for you and ensure your accomplishments are recognized within the existing ranking system. Unfortunately, OWGR has shown little willingness to productively work with us.”
I mean, players have a right to be pissed at LIV and Norman here
“a resolution which protects the accuracy, credibility and integrity of the OWGR rankings no longer exists. “We have made significant efforts to fight for you and ensure your accomplishments are recognized within the existing ranking system. Unfortunately, OWGR has shown little willingness to productively work with us.”
I mean, players have a right to be pissed at LIV and Norman here
This post was edited on 3/5/24 at 7:19 am
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:15 am to lsupride87
If the majors want to keep the best players (and ratings), all they have to do is change the criteria. Not a big deal.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 11:48 am to lsupride87
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I mean, players have a right to be pissed at LIV and Norman here
No they don't. They knew going in that they weren't getting points. They can be mad at the OWGR and themselves. Norman and LIV tried about as hard as you can I'm sure.
I've been a decent fan of LIV from the beginning/mainly not blaming players for leaving and calling out the Tours BS. That being said, as LIV stands right now, they don't deserve OWGR and if they did, it should be a decent amount less than what a PGA tournament gives out.
They took the money and knew going in there would be consequences going in with OWGR. That was part of what they had to weigh when deciding to switch or not. Do I take the money and potential to earn much more money each tournament or do I stay and have the potential to keep rising/stay at a high enough spot in the rankings to earn my way into the majors.
Now there are PGA events that 100% shouldn't be giving out the points that they do, especially events like the Hero World Challenge and now even some of the 54 hole tournaments (at least have a reduced amount). So the system is flawed, but it's too bad, there are consequences for leaving and taking the money. They knew from the get go that you can't have your cake and eat it to but now they want to.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:08 pm to lsupride87
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I mean, players have a right to be pissed at LIV and Norman here
LIV expected OWGR to act with reason and without bias and they didn't.
Regardless of what LIV is doing, there's a ton of external pressure that will force the OWGR to change or be rendered obsolete.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 12:53 pm to lsupride87
Are there any respected independent rankings/analytics out there like what you have seen with college sports that has developed a good system regardless of tour? Something like Kenpom, etc.?
I don’t know if it is doable, but someone that can create a better ranking system has an opportunity right now.
I don’t know if it is doable, but someone that can create a better ranking system has an opportunity right now.
Posted on 3/5/24 at 5:09 pm to lsupride87
OWGR means jack shite. It was always a somewhat flawed metric. Just look at how many US Ryder Cup picks were made based on OWGR and not a players previous 6 months of play. I guess the Masters sent Joaquin Neiman an invite cause they are nice people. Not that they have enough sense to realize he is a Top 50 player based on current form and they want to have the best field they can.
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